Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

[Haykakan]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

Wow 10K?You must be in LALA land. That is like 25% of the entire community here in Detroit. One problem I have seen is that a lot of people who do show up do not understand exactly what they are protesting and are really clueless when they have to say something. Even some of the leaders are clueless regarding the issues. I will take quality over quantity most of the time. It really hurts our cause when some clueless protester is put on the spot and makes him/herself along with the whole protest look foolish and stupid.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

Haykakan,

No disrespect to you. It is both noble and courageous to be a sentinel for the cause. But, one voice is not a protest. At least one that will garner much attention except possibly being removed from the event by a goon or some misinformed public servant.

I am talking about protesting without merely blocking traffic for a day to make some impotent, sterile yet symbolic gesture. For instance, if 10,000 people showed up at the jewish scholar's residence after the genocide denial event. See what happens. He may be less inclined to spew falsities about the genocide. And, realize that his speech rights are not as the truth.

And, I'm not just talking protesting disingenuous scholars and Turkish representative. I am talking about local protests of Americans who actively lobby on behalf of Israeli and Turkish interests for the U.S. government to refrain from recognizing the genocide.

I'll give you an example. A few months back, at Americana, Rick Caruso, the owner attempted to forbid some Armenian Americans from selling pro recognition merchandise. Caruso eventually caved from his posiition. But, he is on the Board of Trustees or Governors for USC. Instead of amassing 100k in front of the Turkish Embassy to the dismay of Los Angeles citizens with little if any attention from the Turkish Government or local or national media. Drop 100k at USC and demand that the genocide denier be removed from USC as a governor or trust. Same goes for Jane Harman (former Congresswoman who is pro-turkey and anti genocide recognition) and Bruce Ramer (former national President of the AJC).

See, the problem is that our so called church leaders and political lobbyists do not even know who is working against us on the ground in the U.S. Protest these people. Let them know that their opinion is not well taken. Drop 10k in front of their place of business or home. Make it uncomfortable for them. They think noone knows or cares how they do Turkey's bidding.

Or, drop 10k in front of a Turkey supporting US Congressperson's home. It will not only get their attention but that person's state and the nation.

[Eddo211]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

Even the Presidentual candidates MUST go to Israel, put the stupid cap on, and kiss the wall.....if not then no chance to become president. Allegiance to Israel.

conclusion.....you must kiss Zionist ass if you want to operate.

[Eddo211]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

Even the Presidentual candidates MUST go to Israel, put the stupid cap on, and kiss the wall.....if not then no chance to become president. Allegiance to Israel.

[Haykakan]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

Freaky I was there myself giving both the Turkish government rep and the jewish "scholor" hell for claiming that what happened to us was not genocide at a eastern Michigan university lecture sponsored by the Turkish lobby. These bastards announced the event last minute because they new more people like me would show up if they announced it earlier. The Zionists do not care because they have way more power then we do. I do agree that it is pathetic watching our church leaders trying to cozy up to these soulless bastards who time and again stab us in the back every chance they get. To be fair not all jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are jews. There are many jews who despise what Israel is and what it does including the denial of justice to us. You see some of us are indeed publicly fighting and exposing injustice and it does make for some discomfort to our enemies but it is still not making much of a difference that I can see. I think we have won the battle of hearts and minds long ago but geopolitics has kept us away from our goals and continues to do so today.

[Eddo211]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

United State of Israel.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

No we haven't. We've been blocking traffic once a year for 20+ years. Old and tired. No one cares. And American herya zionists eating every night without a care or a worry. Undetected and undeterred.

Even worse, our church be breaking bread with them. www.tinyurl.com/o4764f5

All the while, they be sleeping with the enemy. http://www.horizonweekly.ca/news/details/60993/print

How many weapons has Israel sold Azerbaijan?? You think they plan on using those against Iran or Karabagh? http://www.panorama.am/en/society/2015/04/11/haaretz/

[Haykakan]

Re: Cecil the Lion and the Armenian Cause

We been doing what you suggest for decades..America has never gave a xxxx and never will.

[freakyfreaky]

What can supporters of the Armenian Cause learn from the Cecil the Lion controversy?



Take the protest local and make it personal.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/07/29/cecil-lion-killing-minnesota-protests-dentist-office/30858399/

Do not march and disrupt city traffic each year just to reach the front of the Turkish Embassy to yell. The Turks don't care. This does little to encourage non-Armenians in the community to enlist in the cause of genocide recognition and may actually piss them off to the point that they oppose you. (These yearly protests get scant national news attention and brief mention in local news broadcasts)

Instead, protest in front of the residences of those who lobby U.S. politicians in the United States against genocide recognition on behalf of Turkey, Israel and American j*ws and rail against them in public forums.

The same way Israeli firsters protest former U.S. presidents directly to his face at book signings and criticize him in op-ed pieces. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/bo...cart.html?_r=0

Supporters of the Armenian cause must get intimatee with those in the U.S. who lobby the U.S. government on Turkey's behalf to let them know that their complicity in genocide denial is exposed and there are consequences to such reprehensible conduct including public shaming.