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  • #1

    Curious on People's Views...

    How is everybody doing?

    I'm posting this thread to see what are people's views and thoughts about an issue that came up to me recently. I'm currently thinking and planning to shoot a film concerning the Armenian Genocide. And I was curious and wanted to know, what do you (the audience) would like to see on screen concerning this subject? I'm interested to find out your thoughts and expectations, what would you like to see; what wouldn't you like to see; something new or something old but more thorough and any other opinions that you all might have.

    I know there has been many documentaries and other shorts on the Genocide, that is why I'm interested to find out if people want the same approach or something new. Or even today's armenians in relation to the Genocide; are people sick and tired of hearing and seeing things about April 24, 1915, believing nothing will change? (i'm asking because I've actually met people with that in mind). Anything that comes to mind, it will be grateful to read and find out.

    Thanks a lot!
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    Well you're not the only one wanting to make a genocide movie. There's someone else posting in the general topics lounge who says he's making a genocide movie too. Perhaps you should team up, hahaha

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    • #3
      I think it is important to at least use the genocide as a starting point. What would be more interesting is to follow the story of someone who faced the Armenian genocide, who managed to live and built a new life. Follow their story on the journey to a new life.

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      • #4
        Don't mean to strike people with reality in a harsh way but...

        You really shoudn't make a genocide film without the proper funds to produce a movie on such an epic scale. I mean... more power to you if you can BUT...

        After "Ararat"... everyone and their mother wants to make an Armenian Genocide film.

        I don't get it... why don't Armenian filmakers try to FIRST get established and build up a reputation in Hollywood and then contribute back to our culture (Example: Steven Speilberg and "Schindler's List")

        Otherwise, almost every amatuer attempt at it is just going to get misrepresented. And this is only in regards to the Armenian Genocide on a whole, not particular Armenian family stories that happened throughout the Genocide.

        Anyways... just my two sense. More power to you if you can pull off a masterpiece.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Genuine_Stud
          ...Anyways... just my two sense....
          You mean your two cents.
          The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ckBejug
            You mean your two cents.
            I gotta say....moderation at its best but...





            Jeezus Christ!... hereeke!

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            • #7
              Thanks for all the feedback that people wrote. Very interesting.
              Don't worry, "Gaucho", my intensions wasn't, as you narrowly presumed, to appear "desparate". Just curious on what other people thought about such a delicate subject. (it's called a public survey).
              Obviously, my goal wasn't to make an epic film (don't have the means at the moment), sorry, I should have been more clear, my fault. But, all in all thanks for the replies.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sravary
                How is everybody doing?

                I'm posting this thread to see what are people's views and thoughts about an issue that came up to me recently. I'm currently thinking and planning to shoot a film concerning the Armenian Genocide. And I was curious and wanted to know, what do you (the audience) would like to see on screen concerning this subject? I'm interested to find out your thoughts and expectations, what would you like to see; what wouldn't you like to see; something new or something old but more thorough and any other opinions that you all might have.

                I know there has been many documentaries and other shorts on the Genocide, that is why I'm interested to find out if people want the same approach or something new. Or even today's armenians in relation to the Genocide; are people sick and tired of hearing and seeing things about April 24, 1915, believing nothing will change? (i'm asking because I've actually met people with that in mind). Anything that comes to mind, it will be grateful to read and find out.

                Thanks a lot!
                I think that you should tell the story of the Genocide in a very subtle way by tracing the life of some Armenian-Americans, concentrating on the post-genocidal effects on the people. I'm not sure if I'm expressing this very clearly, but you may want to take a look at some books by Peter Najarian. More specifically, his Voyages and his Daughters of Memory (and the third book in the 'trilogy' which I haven't had the pleasure of reading yet). If you can successfully put either of those books into a movie, I think that you would have accomplished a great deal and you would certainly attract a wider audience. The books themselves are very abstract and I think that I've mentioned them in some of my previous posts. But they are wonderful in that they give you so much more than history. In fact, if you didn't know anything about the Genocide, those books would still satisfy. You need to make such a movie so that your non-Armenian audience can walk away from it with only a hint of what happened to Armenians and so that your Armenian-American audience would walk away from it completely relating to what you just presented.

                I don't want you to tell me the story of our Genocide. I want you to tell me about the images that haunt you, about the female figure you start to paint but never finish. About the figure you can't "f u c k with lines." It needs to be personal. Like you're remembering something, but you weren't really there to see it. I want abstraction. Give me the story of an Armenian dude living in the US in the sixties trying to figure out that figure he keeps dreaming about. His grandmother? What is it? Tell me how it destroys his relationship with his non-Armenian girlfriend. Tell me how he tries to live with the Beatniks in their co-ops with a name like Petros or Aram. Do you understand what I'm saying? This is more interesting than a mere Genocide story. I want you to tell me all of this and make me wish that I were an Armenian just so I could understand even a small part of it.

                But please refrain from trying to do what Egoyan did in Ararat. He tried to do too much. He had way too many issues he tried to tackle. This turned his movie into a big mess. You don't need to include every universal theme you can think of like Egoyan did. It's just not effective.

                Anyway, if you actually get around to picking up one of the Najarian books and like what they offer, I would suggest getting in touch with him. I would be glad to try to hook you up with his contact information if you get any serious ideas.

                Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
                Last edited by thedebutante; 11-18-2004, 03:49 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Genuine_Stud
                  I gotta say....moderation at its best but...





                  Jeezus Christ!... hereeke!
                  Uhm, no. Moderation would have been if I went in and corrected your mistake. I pointed out your mistake like a regular poster. I was being anal. It was a joke. Hisoos Christos. Get over it. I did.
                  The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Genuine_Stud
                    Don't mean to strike people with reality in a harsh way but...

                    You really shoudn't make a genocide film without the proper funds to produce a movie on such an epic scale. I mean... more power to you if you can BUT...

                    After "Ararat"... everyone and their mother wants to make an Armenian Genocide film.

                    I don't get it... why don't Armenian filmakers try to FIRST get established and build up a reputation in Hollywood and then contribute back to our culture (Example: Steven Speilberg and "Schindler's List")

                    Otherwise, almost every amatuer attempt at it is just going to get misrepresented. And this is only in regards to the Armenian Genocide on a whole, not particular Armenian family stories that happened throughout the Genocide.

                    Anyways... just my two sense. More power to you if you can pull off a masterpiece.
                    Perfectly put. Exactly how I feel.
                    "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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