To all "Hai Dat" champions and Armenian Turk lovers

[winoman]

There can't be any talk about "coexistence" and/or "reconciliation" between Armenians and Turks:

Armenians need to disengage with Turks completely. The Republic of Armenia needs to further develop and strenghten its ties with Russia, Iran and the European Union.

Besides the obvious fact that Turkey, unlike Armenia, is a relatively primitive nation with an Islamic/Turkic heritage

Besides which, true Armenians and true Turks are drastically different - sociologically, culturally, morally and genetically. Therefore, there can be no talk of our coexistence with Turks.

The amount of falsehoods contained in these statments is rampant.

Armenians and Turks must learn to get along - at the very least for the survival of Armenia itself. There can be no expectation of Armenian survival and prosperity with a hostile superpower on its boarders that leads a coalition of like (Turckisk) nations in the region again it. This is suicide. I could say a great deal more on this issue as well - but this should be obvious for anyone with a brain.

[CatWoman]

The amount of falsehoods contained in these statments is rampant.

Armenians and Turks must learn to get along - at the very least for the survival of Armenia itself. There can be no expectation of Armenian survival and prosperity with a hostile superpower on its boarders that leads a coalition of like (Turckisk) nations in the region again it. This is suicide. I could say a great deal more on this issue as well - but this should be obvious for anyone with a brain.

Wino, I think Armenian was being realistic. Of course, it'll be nice to have good relations with Turkey but is it going to happen any time soon? Definitely not. And no, we don't need Turkey to survive. We haven't had relations with Turkey for a while now, and we're doing just fine. So the point he makes about strengthening our ties with Iran and Russia is just stating the obvious. I also think we need to work on our relations with Georgia, now that is doable. Speaking of which, Russia is moving its military base from Georgia to Armenia, and Azerbaijan isn't too happy about it. Here is the link. So my whole point is, we need to forget about Turkey, and start looking elsewhere.

[Otto]

There can't be any talk about "coexistence" and/or "reconciliation" between Armenians and Turks:

The Turkish state is an artificial entity with a rotten core that will someday fall apart and disapear.

Armenians need to disengage with Turks completely. The Republic of Armenia needs to further develop and strenghten its ties with Russia, Iran and the European Union.

For the state of Turkey, a prosperous Armenia is a long term geo-political risk. Thus, Turks can never have long term friendly intentions with us Armenians.

Besides the obvious fact that Turkey, unlike Armenia, is a relatively primitive nation with an Islamic/Turkic heritage and a bloody past, Turkey has serious geo-political problems with virtually everyone of it's neighbors.

Turkey has serious territorial disputes with Armenians, Greeks, Cypriots, Iraqis, Iranians and Syrians. Most importantly, the Turkish state has an internal problem with its Kurdish population that, in essence, is a terminal cancer that will eventually destroy it.

Besides which, true Armenians and true Turks are drastically different - sociologically, culturally, morally and genetically. Therefore, there can be no talk of our coexistence with Turks.

Furthermore, as long as our sacred lands are occupied by these barbarians, as long as the blood of our countless martyrs have not been avenged, there can be no talk of reconciliation with Turks.

according to one survey 99% of Turks support DARTH-VADER and they are also very upset about the defeat of URUK-HAIS.... artificial entity reminds me of Aliens...lol ( survey is a joke ofcourse in case you think it is real)

[Armenian]

survey is a joke ofcourse in case you think it is real

I'll tell you what the joke is.

The joke is you primitive bastards comming into this discussion board and annoying us. Can't you and your Turdish friends here leave us alone and go seduce some sheep?

[TomServo]

Otto must belong to the 99% of Turks on the forum who don't make any sense.

[Thai-Samurai]

I'll tell you what the joke is.

The joke is you primitive bastards comming into this discussion board and annoying us. Can't you and your Turdish friends here leave us alone and go seduce some sheep?

Otto has been the best Turk to visit this forum, don't criticize him so harshly.

[Thai-Samurai]

And regarding that article, I think along those lines but only w/ less harsher words. Turkey has been and is being a jerk, let's just not associate with them.

[Otto]

i am sorry to joke about serious things...my apologies...

[winoman]

i am sorry to joke about serious things...my apologies...

Actually I thought that obsevation of yours was very serious and as we say "on the money" regarding many Turks and in fact the truth of it is something that we should all be aware of.

[Armenian]

And regarding that article, I think along those lines but only w/ less harsher words. Turkey has been and is being a jerk, let's just not associate with them.

Simply put:

A prosperous Armenia is NOT in the long-term interests of Washington DC, Ankara and Tel Aviv.

A prosperous Armenia IS in the long term interests of the EU, Moscow and Tehran.

Turkey cannot be a good neighbor to Armenia, to much blood has flowed between them and us. Moreover, there are unsettled issues regarding reparations and lands that Turkey can never willingly agree to. Thus, Armeno-Turkish relations can, at best, be superficial.

Armenia needs to forget about its western border, as long as there are proper military forces stationed there, and just concentrate on building its relations with the EU, Moscow and Tehran.

Armenia has done better than its regional neighbors even with the blockade by Turks, the war against Azeris and the geo-economic isolation.