Links to AG stories in news today - incl one with a Turkish perspective to check out

[bell-the-cat]

"Austrian Ancestry" is usually used a a hint phrase meaning someone is a Fascist.

Has the new Pope "Austrian Ancestry", or is he just German?

[Crimson Glow]

By the way....

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=columnists&trh=20050423&hn=18242

Is he not reiterating the Armenian case, here? WITH TURKISH witnesses? Yet he refers to it as a "so called genocide"???

Am I the only one that thinks it comes off sounding something like "The hundreds of thousands of unarmed Armenian women, elderly and children slaughtered by us in this....'so called genocide'....". =| I mean, he says he's trying to explain how he formulated his opinion/stance on the genocide (which, he obviously believes wasn't a genocide), yet....the article is basically about how he's come across witnesses from his own Turkey as to the atrocious treatment of innocent Armenians. It makes no sense.

[bell-the-cat]

By the way....

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=columnists&trh=20050423&hn=18242

Is he not reiterating the Armenian case, here? WITH TURKISH witnesses? Yet he refers to it as a "so called genocide"???

Actually, (unless I've missed it), the author doesn't even use the phrase "so called genocide" anywhere, in both articles! Which, from a Turkish author in a Turkish newspaper, is very

If it were not that both articles were published on the same day, I'd almost believe that the first one (the one wino cited at the top of this thread) was written after the inevitable official dissaproval that the writing of the second one would have provoked!

[bell-the-cat]

Interestingly, the author uses the "it was mostly done by criminals" excuse: "Many criminals were sent to Anatolia from Istanbul at the beginning of World War I. These criminals comprised of murderers and thieves who were released from prisons. The crimes against the Armenians were largely perpetrated by these criminals.". This proves one of my points in the piece I wrote about Dadrian's lecture.

http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpost.php?p=115874&postcount=57

[bell-the-cat]

If it were not that both articles were published on the same day, I'd almost believe that the first one (the one wino cited at the top of this thread) was written after the inevitable official dissaproval that the writing of the second one would have provoked!

Curious. Both have the same dates at the top, but at the bottom the more favourable article is dated a week earlier than the other one. So maybe I'm right about reason for the difference in tone between them.

[Red Brigade]

Austria was an important Ally for the Ottomans during the 16th century.That's why they thought that Arnold was one of their's.