Turkish History - X

[TUR-Friend]

Yeah, we killed 'em all! And we'll do it again! Muhahahahaha!

Hah, he's just kidding. We're innocent. We're a bunch of angels. We didn't do anything.

[winoman]

Yeah, we killed 'em all! And we'll do it again! Muhahahahaha!

Hah, he's just kidding. We're innocent. We're a bunch of angels. We didn't do anything.

hm sums it up nicely - at the top - the truth - followed by the usual denials....

[Thai-Samurai]

Look the problem w/ Turks, is; it's not that we want to hate you guys. But you've been total douchebags to us Armenians for a really long time. It started w/ the Genocide, then it's denying it, now it's a bunch of punk ass teenagers w/ internet connections coming into our forum and causing trouble. The point is, why do you have to be such a douchebag? Didn't your mom teach you better?

[TUR-Friend]

No! She didn't. Turkish moms tell their teenagers to go into Armenian forums and disturb them once after breakfast, and once just before going to bed.

Look dude, I said this many times in this forum, and I'll say it one more time to you. WE DON'T HATE ARMENIANS. We still consider you folks a good neighbor, even though the border is closed. We have a long and peaceful common history together, and we value that fact. But you guys seem totally obsessed with this idea of genocide. Why would we want to kill you all? And even if we did, why would we wait until our empire is too weak because the war? Don't you think that if we wanted to wipe you, we would do it when the Ottoman Empire was the strongest? Obviously there's more to the story, some depth that you folks are missing because of all the emotions involved.

[winoman]

Were not missing anything. We understand what occured and why. You obvioulsy cannot read or reason - like many of the neo-Turks who have descended on this forum for who knows what reason. I'm not sure I've ever come accross such a poor selection of Turks in my life - however perhaps I shouldn't be surprised...

Naima Mustafa Efendi (late 17th cenutry Ottoman court historian) characterized the Turks as "brainless, dull witted (idraksiz Turkler), ugly in appearence (chirkin suralti Turk), deceitful (hilekar Turk), and large and sheep dog shaped (Choban kopegiseklinde bit Turk-u su-Turk)"!


Additionaly, hadiths that supplement the Koran and are attributed to the Prophet Muhammed state: "Turks are a herd of monsters, hostile to mankind, a race that visits disaster upon humanity."

"Turks...are beady eyed, red-faced, flat-nosed, and whose visages resemble shields made of thick leather"

"...the land of the Turks is the source of unbelief and sedition; the Turks are creatures who have nails like claws, tusks and molars similar to wild animals."

Esther Kafe in her book Le myth turc et son decline dans les relations de voyage des Europeens de la Renaissance (1971) reports that Turks were seen by Europeans as: "barbaric, violence prone creatures." "borish, lustful, beast-like persons" "unchaste, rotten and disgusting dogs"

Nikolai Danilevski characterizes the Turks as: "...the most negative factor in history"

Voltaire: "bullies and pillaging people"

French historian Ernest Renan: "Turks are coarse and boorish people, devoid of intelligence"

Frey Waldemar(German historian) wrote in 1932: "Wherever a Turk sees a tree he cuts it down"

and

"The Turks have destroyed culture in everyplace, and have not perserved those things that they have taken into their possession...."


Gustav Rasch - Die Turken in Europa (1873): "With every step he took on the Balkan peninsula, the Turks xxxxxled underfoot the products of thousands of years of culture"


Good to see you carrying on the proud tradition....

[TUR-Friend]

Why would I care how Mohammad, Naima Mustafa or some French idiot characterizes a Turk? Obviously they are our enemy, and will insult us. Only history tells the truth. What you bothered to quot above makes no sense to me, I don't care how my enemies define me, I don't give a sh1t. We came from far away, stole your land, raped your women, killed most of you, enslaved your children, and now we're bigger, we're better, and you're just jealous and so pissed that you can't do a damn thing about it other than literally crying. Small, weak and incapable "nations" like yours deserve to always live under the rule of greater people. Like Turks, Russians, and even Persians. You will never have your own great empire because you lack the genes to create such a big commitment and sacrifice. I think that the upcoming WW3 is a good chance for Armenians to end their horrible faith... it's better not to exist then to exist as a slave.

[CatWoman]

I don't care how my enemies define me

Why do you have so many enemies?

[TUR-Friend]

Because we are able to challenge so many.

[CatWoman]

Because we are able to challenge so many.

Good for you... but realistically speaking, none of the successful countries in Europe have as many enemies as you do. So that can't be the reason.

[winoman]

Why would I care how Mohammad, Naima Mustafa or some French idiot characterizes a Turk? Obviously they are our enemy, and will insult us. Only history tells the truth. What you bothered to quot above makes no sense to me, I don't care how my enemies define me, I don't give a sh1t. We came from far away, stole your land, raped your women, killed most of you, enslaved your children, and now we're bigger, we're better, and you're just jealous and so pissed that you can't do a damn thing about it other than literally crying. Small, weak and incapable "nations" like yours deserve to always live under the rule of greater people. Like Turks, Russians, and even Persians. You will never have your own great empire because you lack the genes to create such a big commitment and sacrifice. I think that the upcoming WW3 is a good chance for Armenians to end their horrible faith... it's better not to exist then to exist as a slave.

So the truth comes out eh - proud of your barbarity are we? Funny how those like you who tout the glories of Empire and put others down are the first to cry -"they all ganged up on us" ""they took our Empire away from us" "boo hoo hoo" etc