Yushenko Is Against Remembering Armenian Genocide In Crimea

[Siamanto]

AZG Armenian Daily #118, 28/06/2005

Armenian Genocide

YUSHENKO IS AGAINST REMEMBERING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IN CRIMEA

WAC Condemns Kiev Authorities

Chairman of the World Armenian Congress, Ara Abrahamian, condemned
Ukrainian authorities in Kiev who opposed the decision of the Crimean
parliament to hold remembrance day of the Armenian Genocide in
1915. Abrahamian said that Kiev's negative response to the Crimean
parliament to remember the Armenian Genocide reveals immaturity of
the Ukrainian authorities and shows that the country is not ready to
join the democratic states.

The Supreme Rada of Crimea, urged by head of the Russian Congress of
Crimea Sergey Shuvaynikov, declared April 24 to be the remembrance
day of the Armenian Genocide. The Ukrainian authorities have not been
making their stance known for 1 month.

In an interview to daily Azg Muscovite political analyst
Andranik Mihranian indicated 2 moments explaining Kiev's position:
President Yushenko paid an official visit to Ankara and the Turkish
influence here is obvious, secondly, there is the Azeri factor as
Ukraine is largely dependent on Azerbaijan as regards to energy
carriers. Mihranian reminded of the United States' example: more
than 3 dozens of US states have recognized the Armenian Genocide
but the executive power of the country does not interfere and try to
apply pressure.

http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg117153.html

[anoush719]

This is Absolutely NO Surprise

AZG Armenian Daily #118, 28/06/2005

Armenian Genocide

YUSHENKO IS AGAINST REMEMBERING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IN CRIMEA

WAC Condemns Kiev Authorities

Chairman of the World Armenian Congress, Ara Abrahamian, condemned
Ukrainian authorities in Kiev who opposed the decision of the Crimean
parliament to hold remembrance day of the Armenian Genocide in
1915. Abrahamian said that Kiev's negative response to the Crimean
parliament to remember the Armenian Genocide reveals immaturity of
the Ukrainian authorities and shows that the country is not ready to
join the democratic states.

The Supreme Rada of Crimea, urged by head of the Russian Congress of
Crimea Sergey Shuvaynikov, declared April 24 to be the remembrance
day of the Armenian Genocide. The Ukrainian authorities have not been
making their stance known for 1 month.

In an interview to daily Azg Muscovite political analyst
Andranik Mihranian indicated 2 moments explaining Kiev's position:
President Yushenko paid an official visit to Ankara and the Turkish
influence here is obvious, secondly, there is the Azeri factor as
Ukraine is largely dependent on Azerbaijan as regards to energy
carriers. Mihranian reminded of the United States' example: more
than 3 dozens of US states have recognized the Armenian Genocide
but the executive power of the country does not interfere and try to
apply pressure.


http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg117153.html

GARBAGE is as garbage does. Yushenko is a player in the George Soros "Orange Revolution."

[Red Brigade]

Yushenko is America's new puppet.

[Siamanto]

CRIMEAN PARLIAMENT REFUSED TO CANCEL THE DECISION TO RECOGNIZE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

Pan Armenian News

Despite the pressure from official Kiev Crimean lawmakers stayed
close to their principles.

On June 22 the Supreme Council of Crimea again discussed the question
of Armenian genocide in Ottoman Turkey. It should be reminded that on
May 19 the Crimean parliament passed a resolution proclaiming April
24 as the day to commemorate the victims of Armenian Genocide. Under
the pressure from the outside the leadership of the legislative organ
came up with an initiative to cancel the resolution. By the majority
of votes the deputies rejected the proposal.

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The bill on announcing April 24 the Memory Day of
the victims of Armenian genocide was introduced by the deputy from the
Congress of Russian communities of Crimea Sergey Shuvaynikov. 59 out
of 62 deputies of the Crimean parliament voted for the bill. However,
immediately after the voting the chairman of the Supreme Rada of the
Autonomous Republic of Crimea Boris Deich announced that he would
not sign the resolution since it could have undesirable political
consequences and official Kiev started to openly put pressure upon
the deputies. The foreign ministry of Ukraine gave to understand that
they would make efforts to achieve cancellation of the decision of
Crimean lawmakers at any price. Unable to bear the pressure, during
the seating of the presidium of the Supreme Council deputy Shuvaynikov
reluctantly suggested to make corrections in the document and to
qualify the events of 1915 as "tragedy". By the majority of votes the
presidium rejected the proposal and decided to leave the document
as it is, without putting the issue of changing the formulation of
the resolution on the agenda of the parliament. Nevertheless speaker
Boris Deich did not give up the idea to achieve the inclusion of the
issue on the agenda. He decided to pursue the initiative directly at
the plenary session.

In the case in question the head of the legislative organ of the
autonomy realized the will of official Kiev that actively flirts
with Baku opposing itself to Yerevan. Ukraine and Azerbaijan are
partner countries in GUAM but allied obligations do not demand open
neglection towards Armenia with which Ukraine has ancient historical
connections. It is quite obvious that it was Ilham Aliev that persuaded
Ukrainian leaders to put pressure on Crimea. During the meeting with
the speaker of Supreme Rada of Ukraine Vladimir Litvin the President of
Azerbaijan demanded to do everything possible to make Crimean lawmakers
reconsider their decision concerning the recognition of Armenian
genocide. Ankara on its turn also made use of diplomatic instruments,
including even the resources of Crimean-Tatar community. Mejlis -
the illegal "parliament" of Crimean Tatars spoke out against the
resolution. The leaders of the Azerbaijan community of Kiev even
started discussing the necessity of Ukrainian parliament to pass a
bill, announcing the resolution invalid.

Arguing the necessity of canceling the resolution, the speaker of the
parliament Boris Deich mentioned that passing of the resolution had
aroused dangerous international resonance. However the arguments of his
opponents turned to be more persuasive. The pro-Armenian atmosphere in
the Crimean parliament was formed yet when the vice-speaker of Supreme
Council of the autonomy was Anushavan Danielyan - current Primer
Minister of Nagorno-Karabakh. In his speech during the debates deputy
Vladimir Kazarin said, "I don't understand what has the president of
Azerbaijan to do with our decision". Kazarin reminded that Armenians
have lived on the territory of Crimea for more than 1500 years. "They
have had a tremendous input in the development of the peninsula. The
history of Crimea is inseparably linked to the names of hundreds
of outstanding Armenians who have become dear for Crimea", the
deputy said. The head of the Crimean organization of the Republican
party of Ukraine Alexander Gross also supported Kazarin and said,
"No parliament in the world has ever cancelled passed resolutions
for the commemoration of the victims of Armenian genocide. This can
be a sad precedent. We have to account for our own decisions..."

As a result, the initiative of the speaker was put to the vote and
received only 13 votes. The issue is closed. From now on, every year
on April 24 Crimea will officially commemorate the victims of Armenian
genocide in Ottoman Turkey.

25.06.2005, "PanARMENIAN Network" analytical department

http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg117500.html

[Pamooshjian]

"However, immediately after the voting the chairman of the Supreme Rada of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea Boris Deich announced that he would not sign the resolution since it could have undesirable political consequences and official Kiev started to openly put pressure upon the deputies. The foreign ministry of Ukraine gave to understand that they would make efforts to achieve cancellation of the decision of Crimean lawmakers at any price. Unable to bear the pressure, during the seating of the presidium of the Supreme Council deputy Shuvaynikov reluctantly suggested to make corrections in the document and to qualify the events of 1915 as "tragedy". By the majority of votes the presidium rejected the proposal and decided to leave the document as it is, without putting the issue of changing the formulation of the resolution on the agenda of the parliament. Nevertheless speaker Boris Deich did not give up the idea to achieve the inclusion of the issue on the agenda. He decided to pursue the initiative directly at the plenary session."

"Arguing the necessity of canceling the resolution, the speaker of the parliament Boris Deich mentioned that passing of the resolution had aroused dangerous international resonance."

Siamanto,

Guess who the vice president of The Jewish Confederation of Ukraine is.

http://www.jewukr.org/o_nas/lidery/lidery_e.html

[Siamanto]

Siamanto,

Guess who the vice president of The Jewish Confederation of Ukraine is.

http://www.jewukr.org/o_nas/lidery/lidery_e.html

Pamooshjian,
Thank you for the info! I did not know!

However, considering
1- The geo-political realities of the region
2- The economical dependencies of Ukraine
3- The *urkish belligerent and naively megalomaniac mindset of "you do as I say"

Do you think that events would have occurred any differently if the parliament speaker was another person, regardless of his/her ethnic background? If yes, how?

Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk" or "*urkish" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations!

[Otto]

pity.. you all look like foxes waiting for the crow to drop his piece of cheese( a very small cheese).... are you gonna spend the rest of your lives according to other people? when will you start doing things by yourselves and stop waiting other's to decide in your favour?

[anoush719]

pity.. you all look like foxes waiting for the crow to drop his piece of cheese( a very small cheese).... are you gonna spend the rest of your lives according to other people? when will you start doing things by yourselves and stop waiting other's to decide in your favour?

In case you didn't notice, we did get what we wanted. Now it's just like a snowball rolling down a snowy hill, getting bigger and bigger, faster and faster. I'd advise any and all to get out of the way.

[Otto]

just tell me one country that recoginzed genocide and changed its relationship with Turkey accordingly.... then look at your faster and bigger snowball again

[Pamooshjian]

Pamooshjian,
Thank you for the info! I did not know!

I didn't klnow either, but you know me, I have a nose for these things and I was right as usual.

However, considering
1- The geo-political realities of the region
2- The economical dependencies of Ukraine
3- The *urkish belligerent and naively megalomaniac mindset of "you do as I say"

They're all just excuses and none are acceptable when you're dealing with crimes against humanity. Would the world at large accept the denial of the alleged jewish adventures of WWII (although they also made a very similar and laughable claim during WWI, which had even more diabolical resons behind it. Also reserved for another discussion) for any one of the above reasons? No they wouldn't and not only would it not be acceptable, it is unthinkable. Number one and two, I can only say that the word "prostitution" comes to mind and France for one could have opted for the number two citing that they would lose lucarative contracts etc etc, but morality took over instead. As for number three, it's funny but "cetain" members of the US congress tried to play that card which you can read about in the article I will provide below.

Do you think that events would have occurred any differently if the parliament speaker was another person, regardless of his/her ethnic background? If yes, how?

The simple answer although not absolutely, is most probably yes. The reason being that it would be less likely that the individual in question would be acting in the intrests of a "third party". You will understand what I mean by that after reading the article I post below.

ANC CONFRONTS REP. LANTOS ON DENIAL OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

Northern California Congressman, a Holocaust Survivor, Has Taken a Leading Role in Denying the First Genocide of the 20th Century

LOS ANGELES, CA - Representatives of the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA), in meetings in Washington, DC and in his northern California District Office, have challenged Congressman Tom Lantos (D-CA) to abandon his policy of Armenian Genocide denial.

The meeting in northern California took place at the Congressman's San Mateo office and included his human rights aide Margery Farrar and the Congressman's constituent Haig Baghdassarian, who serves as a member of the San Francisco Human Rights Commission, as well as ANCA-Western U.S. Government Relations Director Ardashes Kassakhian. On April 18th, Baghdassarian, a longtime member of the San Francisco ANC, met again with a Lantos aide, this time in Washington, DC. At that meeting he conferred with the Congressman's Senior Policy Advisor Dr. Kay King. Dr. King explained that Rep. Lantos' opposition to Congressional recognition of the Armenian Genocide was based on national security grounds. The aide went on to suggest the Representative might be supportive of creating a historical commission to examine the Armenian issue to sort out what he described as ambiguity surrounding the events of 1915.

Lantos took a leading role in the 106th Congress in attempting to block passage of legislation recognizing the Armenian Genocide. As a senior member of the House International Relations Committee, which had jurisdiction over the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.R. 596), Lantos worked feverishly to strike all mention of the word genocide from the legislation. Despite his best efforts, Lantos failed to secure passage of an amendment that would have struck the word genocide from the bill.

"It is most unfortunate that Tom Lantos has stained his distinguished legislative career by actively working to deny the Armenian Genocide," commented ANC Government Affairs Director Ardashes Kassakhian.

"The denial of the Armenian Genocide or any other genocide is wrong," Haig Baghdassarian explained. "For Rep. Lantos, my Congressman, to suggest that his denial of the Armenian Genocide is based on national security is, quite simply, immoral. Does Tom Lantos really want to live in a world where genocides and holocausts are only recognized when doing so does not disturb what he or others define as U.S. national interests?" Baghdassarian added.

In a letter hand-delivered to an aide of Representative Lantos in early March of this year the ANC wrote:

"The Armenian-American community of California's 12th Congressional District, throughout California, and nationwide is mindful of the destructive role you and your staff played in seeking to defeat H.Res. 596, legislation concerning the Armenian Genocide, which was considered and passed by the House International Relations Committee during the 106th Congress. Your role in seeking to defeat this legislation runs contrary to your otherwise distinguished career in the U.S. House of Representatives.

We are particularly concerned that you inferred that the Armenian Genocide resolution should be defeated for fear that America's ally, the Republic of Turkey, would be offended. Specifically, during committee consideration of the bill you remarked, "This legislation at this moment in U.S.-Turkish relations is singularly counterproductive to our national interest." Is this your litmus test for acknowledging crimes against humanity?

We are also concerned that there may be other reasons - which you did not state - for your opposition to U.S. recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Some have suggested that your newfound denial of the Armenian Genocide may be unrelated to our country, but of concern to a third party. We would appreciate a full and open explanation of your new position concerning the Armenian Genocide."

To date the ANCA-WR has received no reply to this letter.

...

http://www.anca.org/press_releases/press_releases.php?prid=205

Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder who that "third party" might be.

Anyway, I know you understand what I'm getting at and in my opinion, it's no coincidence that more often than not, the individuals who are most opposed to the recognition of the Armenian Genocide, turn out to be of the "chosen" variety. I really can't explain it, but it's not what they do that gives them away, it's the way they go about it. In most cases I can tell if they're doing it for money as in the case of Burton (it was very obvious that he was going to get paid a substantial amount of money), and I can tell if there's more than geo-politics, economical incentives (for the country they are "supposedly" representing, such as the Ukraine in the case of Deich and the US in the case of Lantos) or turkish belligerence which is laughable in regards to the US. Plus I know that they wouldn't be in favor of the recognition of the AG, even if you paid them ten times what Burton was paid. It's as if their life is on the line, but actually more like their whole tribe is being threatened and that part I do understand very well. How does the recognition of the AG threaten their tribe? Well, that's for a whole other discussion, but I will say that it's not about turkey and their alliance or anything of that sort.