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  • TIME's Chief Editor Claims Magazine Was Duped by Turks

    TIME's Chief Editor Claims
    Magazine Was Duped by Turks

    By Harut Sassounian
    Publisher, The California Courier

    The June 6, 2005 issue of the European edition of TIME magazine included a
    DVD as a paid ad. The DVD had a 70-minute segment that completely denied
    and distorted the facts of the Armenian Genocide. In the same issue, along
    with the DVD, TIME ran a four-page ad, placed by the Ankara Chamber of
    Commerce, promoting tourism in Turkey.

    In an earlier column, I pointed out that the 70-minute "documentary" was
    hidden behind several other segments on the DVD all of which dealt with
    tourism. This revisionist DVD created a worldwide uproar against TIME for
    acting as a conduit for Turkish distortions.

    In response to complaints from many readers, TIME printed in the June 20,
    2005 issue of its European edition the following letter:

    "I was rather disappointed to see a DVD in your magazine [June 6]
    accompanying a Turkish ad that portrayed Armenians as terrorists and the
    Armenian genocide as a myth. TIME has a good reputation for unbiased
    reporting. The DVD is an insult to all Armenians across the world." The
    letter was signed by Gagik Mikaelian, Chicago, Ill.

    The editors of TIME added the following note to that letter: "TIME is an
    independent newsmagazine and does not endorse the views of any organization or government. We regret any offense caused by the advertisements."

    Given the gravity of the offense committed by TIME, this brief letter and
    the briefer response fell far short of what is expected, particularly in
    view of the fact that TIME's European edition had violated anti-racism and
    genocide denial laws of several European countries, besides offending the
    sensibilities of its readers.

    Simon Maghakyan of Colorado was so offended with TIME's denialist DVD that
    he sent a letter of complaint to Norman Pearlstine, the Editor-in-Chief of
    TIME, Inc. After receiving no answer to his several letters, Mr. Maghakyan
    fired off an angry e-mail to Mr. Pearlstine, making a parallel between the
    sending of the Turkish DVD to distributing Nazi propaganda.

    That e-mail got Mr. Pearlstine's attention. He sent the following reply,
    making this interesting and important revelation: "We have, of course,
    apologized in the magazine for accepting a DVD whose contents were
    different from what we had been led to believe they would be."

    Regardless of whether the Editor-in-Chief of TIME is being honest in his
    assertion that the magazine's executives were misled by Turks, such an
    admission opens the door for Armenians to ask that TIME now redress the
    damage it caused by disseminating the Turkish DVD to 500,000 subscribers in
    more than a dozen European countries.

    In an earlier column, I suggested that TIME take the following 6 steps to
    make up for its grave error:

    1) Publish a real apology for disseminating this fraudulent DVD;
    2) Issue a formal memo to all its divisions around the world not to accept
    this DVD as an insert (the Ankara Chamber of Commerce has announced its
    intention to place the same DVD in TIME's Asian and Pacific editions);
    3) Issue a written warning to all its advertising executives not to accept
    any more ads from Turkish entities that deny the Armenian Genocide (just as
    they would not run an ad that denies the Jewish Holocaust and glorifies
    Hitler; the New York Times recently rejected an ad from Turkish
    organizations denying the Armenian Genocide);
    4) Destroy the extra 116,000 copies of this DVD that are still in TIME's
    possession;
    5) Agree to insert and disseminate free of charge a DVD, prepared by a
    reputable research institute, on the Armenian Genocide;
    6) Donate the payment it received from the Turkish Chamber of Commerce for
    this ad to an Armenian charity.

    After admitting that TIME magazine ran an ad that it shouldn't have, Mr.
    Pearlstine must now meet with Armenian community leaders to discuss the
    next steps in order to avoid a costly and embarrassing lawsuit in several
    European countries and a loss of subscribers as well as advertisers in the
    U.S. and other parts of the world!

    "that was the renegade Hebrew (donmeh) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Rafael De Nogales. Four Years Beneath the Crescent. 1926. p.27

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cinderella
    TIME's Chief Editor Claims
    Magazine Was Duped by Turks

    By Harut Sassounian
    Publisher, The California Courier
    ...
    http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg119728.html


    What is everyone too fearful to discuss this topic? That is very sad and pathetic. So what should they do? Let them off easy?

    I say go all the way and take them to court.
    Last edited by ckBejug; 08-04-2005, 02:49 PM. Reason: You don't need to quote all of a long article someone else has posted! :)

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    • #3
      Definately should be taken to court and get this crap straightened out. Money hungry bastards. I though Time had more class than this.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cinderella
        TIME's European edition had violated anti-racism and
        genocide denial laws of several European countries, besides offending the
        sensibilities of its readers.
        I wonder if the Turks who supplied this DVD to Time can also be charged with breaking these laws. It's worth looking into.

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        • #5
          I doubt the Turks can be charged with it because the distribution was dependant on Time magazine, but if they can prove they were truly duped then it will all rest on the Turk's shoulders but it will be symbolic and it wont say anything, I mean, what else is new, Turks denying the genocide? But if Time is convicted it will be big news and a big symbolic step.

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          • #6
            5) Agree to insert and disseminate free of charge a DVD, prepared by a
            reputable research institute, on the Armenian Genocide;
            6) Donate the payment it received from the Turkish Chamber of Commerce for
            this ad to an Armenian charity.

            haha that would be so funny if we pulled these last two off.

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            • #7
              Why doesn't TIME just die?

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              • #8
                Yah but you have to admit the Time magazine trick was fairly pathetic.
                this post = teh win.

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