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    when i was looking at the news on bbc america i came across this article:





    Turks protest at Armenian forum

    Resistance to a free debate on the issue is still strong in Turkey

    Hundreds of Turkish nationalists have been protesting outside a controversial conference on the mass killings of Armenians under Ottoman rule.

    They chanted slogans and booed delegates entering Istanbul's Bilgi University for the two-day event.

    The conference had been due to open on Friday, at another venue, but was stopped from doing so by a court order.

    Debate of the killings has been taboo in Turkey but there is outside pressure for greater freedom of speech.

    "Treason will not go unpunished" and "This is Turkey, love it or leave it," shouted the demonstrators.

    "The Armenian genocide is an international lie," read a huge banner carried by members of the minor left-wing Workers' Party.

    Taped mouths

    Armenians worldwide have been campaigning for decades for the deaths - thought to have been more than a million, around the time of WWI - to be recognised universally as genocide.

    The conference discussing the issue was due to be held at Istanbul's Bosphorus University, but it was banned by an Istanbul court after complaints by nationalists that the historians behind it were "traitors".


    If we have confidence in our own beliefs, we should not fear freedom of thought

    The historians challenge official Turkish accounts of the killings, which give a much smaller death toll and link Armenian losses to civil strife in which many Turks also died.

    The court ruling brought emotionally charged scenes on the Bosphorus campus on Friday, said the BBC's Sarah Rainsford in Istanbul.

    Students, angry that the conference was cancelled, taped their mouths while small groups of nationalists gathered to condemn plans for the forum.

    EU condemnation

    Bilgi University stepped in "in the name of freedom of expression and thought", said its president, Aydin Ugur.

    Government leaders regretted the court ruling which "cast a shadow on the process of democratisation and freedoms", according to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    "If we have confidence in our own beliefs, we should not fear freedom of thought," he told separate gathering of academics on Saturday.

    EU enlargement commissioner Krisztina Nagy said Brussels strongly deplored the court's "attempt to prevent the Turkish society from discussing its history".

    Turkey begins talks on joining the EU in two weeks' time.

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    I can't believe that the people were calling the genocide a international lie!
    They really need to get their facts straight, but at least some of the people in the country know that the genocide happened.
    I think between Cyprus and Armenia, that Turkey is never going to get into the EU, because you can not put Turkey on the same level of freedoms for the people as the nations of western europe (of my knowledge anyway).
    Last edited by armenianteen; 09-24-2005, 07:17 PM.

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    This is not outrageous whatsoever, I see the logic behind the Turkish nationalists, they will never suffer the humiliation we would bring upon them should Turkey accept their responsibility for the genocide.

    The only way we can set our scores straight is through outright competition, but this is no time to start doing it, we have the problems of choosing the right allies at the time, and we will suffer a deep wound should America assume this position permenantly and isolate us even further.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by armenianteen
      I can't believe that the people were calling the genocide a international lie!
      How can a LIE be INTERNATIONAL? do they ever stop to think maybe the "international lie" is the truth and the "national truth" (Turkey's viewpoint) is the lie? If I'm making sense.

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