Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

They will never lett Armenia get to strong its like with Rome
Rome needed the help of the Armenians against the Partians but Armenia didn't need to get to strong so we need to chose between to ways go solo or go alonge with Rusia and the rest and then go solo or search other allies in the world when russia thinks we got too strong for to controle

[MrLeftyHye]

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Lets go with Russia if anything ever happens to Armenia, Russia is string & they will have our backs.

[armo_origin]

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I don't think there's that much gurantee that Russia will have our backs in the future; they may have in the past, but what makes us so sure that they'll have our backs all the time?

[Selpak]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

no one dies, lost money for you. they have to get something. it is the rule of relations. France and Russia are useing Kurds against Turkey. And they can use Greece aswell. No need to Armenia to stop Turkey. Btw, what is "strong Armenia"? Can someone descripe it?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

I think a strong Armenia means a Armenia that controls all his historical lands and the people can work there like they did before the turks came and they can become a powerful trade nations in the world and don't need a other nation to fight for his intrests

[tamara48]

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and also why had armanians lived with "barbaric" turks for 600 years ?
Why were there many armenians who are deputy, minister and manager in some goverment services in "barbaric" Ottoman Empire ?

there was a wrong sentence:The Barbarics had lived with Armenians 600 years.Armenains were there before Turks got Anatolia.I think you forgot it.

[Էլիա]

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Anyway... could we get back on topic?

[ArmSurvival]

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To the people who said there were not even 1.5 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire (I don't know if you're still around), but you might want to check the Ottoman census of 1844 and 1867, which puts the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire at 2.4 million. Note this is the Ottoman census, before the period of extremism which gripped the late Ottomans after the 1878 Russo-Turkish war, where afterwards virtually all their information about Armenians was severely biased, and conflicted with every single foreign estimate.

[Էլիա]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

The Turks know that there were over 1.5 million people in the Ottoman Empire. They're just trying to "brainwash" us (as if that will work).

[lavash]

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Genocide exhibit opens at U.N. after compromise reached on killings of Armenians
The Associated PressPublished: April 30, 2007


UNITED NATIONS: An exhibit on the 1994 Rwanda genocide opened Monday at U.N. headquarters after organizers recast a section on the killings of a million Armenians in Turkey during World War I — a reference that angered the Turks.

The exhibit, originally set to open April 9, was postponed after a Turkish diplomat complained about the mention of the Armenian murders. The section now uses the term "mass killings" instead of "murders," does not include the number of people killed, and replaces "Turkey" with "Ottoman Empire."

Armenia's U.N. Ambassador Armen Martirosyan said the reference still reflects the truth, "to some extent. This is a Turkish version of history which is not acceptable for us, but to avoid further postponement of the exhibition, we compromised."

Numerous calls placed Monday to Turkey's U.N. Mission seeking comment on the changes were not immediately returned.

Historians estimate up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by Ottoman Turks around the time of World War I, an event widely viewed by genocide scholars as the first genocide of the 20th century. Turkey, however, denies the deaths constituted genocide, saying the toll has been inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war and unrest.