recognition of armenian genocide

[gmd]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

I am not an Ottomanist..........

what is the democratic federation of Anatolia?

Is your concern for Armenians based on some personal moral values or do you have christian or Armenian ancestory?

[Sip]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

It's a fairly simple explanation... there are a number of Arab/Muslim countries just itching to march over and level Israel at any chance they get. Israel simply needs to keep the US-Turkey relations in the up-and-up so that US forces will have some place to mobilize to in order to assist.

I would say good relations between US and Turkey is rather vital for the long term survival of Israel in the region. Unfortunately, this doesn't work so well for "Genocide Recognition"

[karoaper]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

I found an interesting link to google answers topic about Emmanuel Karasu. I have to be honest, I don't know much about this, and haven't had or taken the necessary time to research it myself, which is what I need to really understand it and believe it, rather than just accept it from someone else.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=531420

[Armenian1]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Hi Vagharshapat
You have made a lot of important claims here you also said you have read a lot about this issue can you support all these claims by evidence sources books and sites that one can do some research?
I don't wanna judge about what you wrote straightaway but I think Sip's explanation till now according to me is the most realistic and I agree with him. Israel needs a strong Muslim ally in military in the region. and moreover don't forget the Baku Tiflis Cehan pipeline there are now talks between Israel and Turkey for Turkey to supply Israel with oil and gas so Turkey is super important for Israel for it's survival.

[skhara]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Israel doesn't 'need' "turkey" to survive. All Israel needs, is American lives, American manpower, American money, American guns, and American media. And since they have that, they get "turkey", and whatever they want from the "turkey" for free.

[skhara]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Oh and let me just clarify a bit more about Israels 'need'. They need Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia a lot more than "turkey". And since they have Washington, they have these 3 as well. They sure would love to have Syria, Lebanon, and finally get Iraq. They won't get Lebanon while Hezbollah is around, and Syria has at least kept their dignity. Iraq's Shia population is a blessing since that has an affect of making them sympathetic with Iran.

[skhara]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

these claims by evidence

He wrote a lot of claims in a relatively short post. To provides links that further expand on each every claim could take days if not weeks. You obviously have internet access, can you not take the claims of interest to you and do the research?

[Selpak]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

And why would a Turk write such an article? It's shocking...

ideological reasons.

Mason locaları Atatürk'ün girişimiyle 1935'de kapatıldı ve bütün mal varlıkları Halkevlerine bağışlandı... "Osmanlı Devleti'nin yönetimini ele geçirmiş" yahudiler her nasılsa yönetimine sahip oldukları ülkede gayri-müslim muamelesi gördü ve örneğin müslümanlar gibi varlık vergisinden muaf tutulmadılar...

[Vagharshapat]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

What is the fate of this fabricated nation? Will she disappear one day as it appeared?

And why would a Turk write such an article? It's shocking...

Why not? If you respect the Truth and if you are fed up with living a lie, fed up with living in an artificial country with taboos and dogmas and constraits and paranoia and if you suffer every day of this mental sickness caused by not confronting the truth, the national arrogance and the guilty conscience you can write such an article....

[Sip]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Mason locaları Atatürk'ün girişimiyle 1935'de kapatıldı ve bütün mal varlıkları Halkevlerine bağışlandı... "Osmanlı Devleti'nin yönetimini ele geçirmiş" yahudiler her nasılsa yönetimine sahip oldukları ülkede gayri-müslim muamelesi gördü ve örneğin müslümanlar gibi varlık vergisinden muaf tutulmadılar...

That makes absolutely no sense. And what does all this have to do with "gay muslims"? But the part about "tutulmadilar" was pretty funny