recognition of armenian genocide

[gmd]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

I am not an Ottomanist..........

what is the democratic federation of Anatolia?

Is your concern for Armenians based on some personal moral values or do you have christian or Armenian ancestory?

[Lucin]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

What is the fate of this fabricated nation? Will she disappear one day as it appeared?

And why would a Turk write such an article? It's shocking...

[Vagharshapat]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

You're just seething at that post, aren't you? Don't be fooled. The Ottomanist Turks are just as anti-Armenian as the Kemalists. And there is no need to explain the Grey Wolves.

I am not an Ottomanist..........

[Vagharshapat]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Vagharshapat,

this is a very good summary. Are you really a turk? How did you come to learn this information?

I am technically a Turk, ethnically a mixture. But nationality and race doesn't matter for me, I am just a human and a conscience.

I learned this information by reading lots of books, visiting web sites and forums about sabbataism and crypto-jevs in Turkey. This subject was very popular a few years ago. But it was swept under the rug since it threatened the foundation of the republic and Turkish identity.

In the year 2000 during the time of presidential elections in Turkey, one of the most likely candidates was Ismail Cem. But he was a member of Ipekci family and he had changed his surname to conceal it. Because Ipekci family was a well-known jevish-convert(donmeh) family from salonika. When this truth was revealed it attained great publicity and he was forced to step down. After this incident his politic career ended and eventually he became cancer and died last year.

For long years he had served as the foreign minister of Turkey. It is well known that Ministry of Foreign Affairs has been controlled by Sabbataists since the foundation of the republic. All the staff has been chosen from sabbataist families.

I once read in a book about ASALA that Asala was very well aware of this truth. And also they knew the responsibility of the Crypto-Jevish elite for the genocide. The book suggests, that is why they purposely attacked the personnel of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs..........

[TomServo]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

You're just seething at that post, aren't you? Don't be fooled. The Ottomanist Turks are just as anti-Armenian as the Kemalists. And there is no need to explain the Grey Wolves.

[skhara]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Vagharshapat,

this is a very good summary. Are you really a turk? How did you come to learn this information?

[Էլիա]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Let me tell you why;

Have you asked yourself why the Jevish lobby is supporting Turkey this much.

Have you asked yourself why the big countries have difficulty in accepting genocide?

Have you asked yourself why a whole international public couldn't do anything for the invasion of Cyprus.

Is Turkey so strong? Who is behind Turkey?

Jevish Converts and Sabbataism is a fact in Turkey. Lots of Jevs converted in the time of the Ottomans. Because it was the decree of their messiah Sabbatai Zwi to convert and pretend like a muslim in order to seize control of the empire. And they became successful in a short period like 200 years. The founding fathers of Turkey are all Jevish converts and masons. Why was Turkey so easily founded? Why did the French retreat so easily? Why didn't the English fight with the Turks? Everything was set up to share middle east and to found Israel. The imperialists were partners in crime and they were controlled by jevish lobbies. They seemed to fight among eachother but it was a win-win situation for the Jevs. Turkey was the first step of founding Israel. The victims would be Christian peoples of the Middle East and Anatolia.

When the father of Zionism; Teodor Hertzl first demanded Palestine from Sultan Abdulhamid he was rejected. They overthrew him. Ittihat and Terakki Party was the puppet of Zionists. Every single one of them including K.Ataturk was a member of the Saloniki Mason Lodge founded by the famous Rothschild family who owned the Baku Oil Reserves. The grand master was a Turkish Jev; Emmanuel Karasso. He was also one of the founders of Jon-Turks. Emmanuel Karasso was in close touch with Hertzl. He was one of the 3 men who had gone to declare Abdulhamid that he was overthrown. The next grand master with the 33rd degree would be Talaat Pasha. The Ittihat and Terakki journal was printed by another Russian zionist Jabotinsky. There were also zionists in Germany, France and England all in contact with eachother. The concept of Turkism was created by Jon-Turks' masterminds. They were considering the Turks; the lost tribe of Israel. The lands that Armenians were on, gathered great value also for the oil. Also these Talmudic Jevs hated Christians to the core.

The first president of Israel Golda Meir had said ;"If Abdulhamid hadn't been overthrown, the foundation of Israel could be delayed another 30 years." This zionist originated party seized control of the empire and caused the empire to enter the World War which eventually leaded to the collapse of the empire. It was a great disaster for the peoples of Anatolia and Middle east. But was it really a disaster for the Jevs? No. After the extermination of the christians who were the great rivals of Jevs for hundreds of years and seizing of their industries and great wealth; Anatolia now entered into the domination of these crypto-Jevs. There was no longer Judaism but Turkishness. They created Turkishness and possessed this new identity with great enthusiasm. Then, a man from salonika, a descendant of sabbatai Zwi founded this country. Golde Meir says; "Yes, we are proud that the founding father of Turkey is from Jevish origin." (refer to encyclopedia Judaica)

Ataturk once said in an interview with a Jevish journalist in Jerusalem that he was a descendant of sabbatai Zwi, and that his father had taught him the Torah when he was a child and he also surprized the journalist by reciting the "Sema Israel" prayer indicating that it was his secret prayer. Let us remind you that ataturk's first school in salonica was Semsi Efendi school. This Semsi Effendi's real name was Samuel zwi; a descendant of Sabbatai Zwi.
When Ataturk was once reminded that he wasn't from Turkish origin, he replied "Yes, Napoleon was a Corsican Italian but he became the greatest French." And the man who had influenced ataturk the most, was the theorician of Jon-Turks and the creator Turkishness; Ziya Gokalp

Thus, a superficial republic which was ruled by the dominant crypto-Jevish class and whose slaves were brainwashed and assimilated Anatolian people, was founded. Some say this republic was the first Jevish State of the 20th century. Today Turkish republic has a kind of immunity. It is almost impossible to pass a Genocide Law against Turkey in the world. The world cannot do anything about the Cyprus issue. Because Cyprus is very strategic for Israel and a center for money laundering. Does the Jevish lobby support Turkey this much out of their love for Turkey? No, they protect it because they consider Turkey a country of their own.

Today, the chief-of-staff of the Turkish Army; General yasar Buyukanıt whose grandfather is buried in Israel in a State Cemetary due to his service for the Jevish Secret Army; NILI in 1.WW, is a crypto-Jev, and this evil person is playing both sides and aiming for a civil war in Turkey, then making a military coup and becoming the second Ataturk....

Retarded racist Jeewws!!! Well, this adds even more to the theory that there aren't really any "Turks", but just people from many other cultures who call themselves "Turks". Take that "Turkish" identity away from all the "Turks", and poof goes Turkey!

[Vagharshapat]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Let me tell you why;

Have you asked yourself why the Jevish lobby is supporting Turkey this much.

Have you asked yourself why the big countries have difficulty in accepting genocide?

Have you asked yourself why a whole international public couldn't do anything for the invasion of Cyprus.

Is Turkey so strong? Who is behind Turkey?

Jevish Converts and Sabbataism is a fact in Turkey. Lots of Jevs converted in the time of the Ottomans. Because it was the decree of their messiah Sabbatai Zwi to convert and pretend like a muslim in order to seize control of the empire. And they became successful in a short period like 200 years. The founding fathers of Turkey are all Jevish converts and masons. Why was Turkey so easily founded? Why did the French retreat so easily? Why didn't the English fight with the Turks? Everything was set up to share middle east and to found Israel. The imperialists were partners in crime and they were controlled by jevish lobbies. They seemed to fight among eachother but it was a win-win situation for the Jevs. Turkey was the first step of founding Israel. The victims would be Christian peoples of the Middle East and Anatolia.

When the father of Zionism; Teodor Hertzl first demanded Palestine from Sultan Abdulhamid he was rejected. They overthrew him. Ittihat and Terakki Party was the puppet of Zionists. Every single one of them including K.Ataturk was a member of the Saloniki Mason Lodge founded by the famous Rothschild family who owned the Baku Oil Reserves. The grand master was a Turkish Jev; Emmanuel Karasso. He was also one of the founders of Jon-Turks. Emmanuel Karasso was in close touch with Hertzl. He was one of the 3 men who had gone to declare Abdulhamid that he was overthrown. The next grand master with the 33rd degree would be Talaat Pasha. The Ittihat and Terakki journal was printed by another Russian zionist Jabotinsky. There were also zionists in Germany, France and England all in contact with eachother. The concept of Turkism was created by Jon-Turks' masterminds. They were considering the Turks; the lost tribe of Israel. The lands that Armenians were on, gathered great value also for the oil. Also these Talmudic Jevs hated Christians to the core.

The first president of Israel Golda Meir had said ;"If Abdulhamid hadn't been overthrown, the foundation of Israel could be delayed another 30 years." This zionist originated party seized control of the empire and caused the empire to enter the World War which eventually leaded to the collapse of the empire. It was a great disaster for the peoples of Anatolia and Middle east. But was it really a disaster for the Jevs? No. After the extermination of the christians who were the great rivals of Jevs for hundreds of years and seizing of their industries and great wealth; Anatolia now entered into the domination of these crypto-Jevs. There was no longer Judaism but Turkishness. They created Turkishness and possessed this new identity with great enthusiasm. Then, a man from salonika, a descendant of sabbatai Zwi founded this country. Golde Meir says; "Yes, we are proud that the founding father of Turkey is from Jevish origin." (refer to encyclopedia Judaica)

Ataturk once said in an interview with a Jevish journalist in Jerusalem that he was a descendant of sabbatai Zwi, and that his father had taught him the Torah when he was a child and he also surprized the journalist by reciting the "Sema Israel" prayer indicating that it was his secret prayer. Let us remind you that ataturk's first school in salonica was Semsi Efendi school. This Semsi Effendi's real name was Samuel zwi; a descendant of Sabbatai Zwi.
When Ataturk was once reminded that he wasn't from Turkish origin, he replied "Yes, Napoleon was a Corsican Italian but he became the greatest French." And the man who had influenced ataturk the most, was the theorician of Jon-Turks and the creator Turkishness; Ziya Gokalp

Thus, a superficial republic which was ruled by the dominant crypto-Jevish class and whose slaves were brainwashed and assimilated Anatolian people, was founded. Some say this republic was the first Jevish State of the 20th century. Today Turkish republic has a kind of immunity. It is almost impossible to pass a Genocide Law against Turkey in the world. The world cannot do anything about the Cyprus issue. Because Cyprus is very strategic for Israel and a center for money laundering. Does the Jevish lobby support Turkey this much out of their love for Turkey? No, they protect it because they consider Turkey a country of their own.

Today, the chief-of-staff of the Turkish Army; General yasar Buyukanıt whose grandfather is buried in Israel in a State Cemetary due to his service for the Jevish Secret Army; NILI in 1.WW, is a crypto-Jev, and this evil person is playing both sides and aiming for a civil war in Turkey, then making a military coup and becoming the second Ataturk....

[Crimson Glow]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

Two reasons:

A. They're very good allies of Turkey.

B. Israel wants a "monopoly on sympathy"© (copyright Crimson Glow).

A is the reason that many nations (including the US) won't officially recognize the genocide, fearing political relations problems. But A alone is not enough for a nation to flat-out deny the genocide. The combination of reasons A and B is what leads to Israel's denial.

[Davit2]

Re: recognition of armenian genocide

to the mods: why does j e w come out as xxx?