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Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

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  • Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

    As far back as in the IV century Armenians lost their statehood. Within 1500 year period they tried to re-establish it. But all in vain. The true nature of Armenians was well known to Byzantines, that joined Byzantine Empire at times. If there were not settlement of Turks in Anadolu in the XI century Armenians would have a crash of their nation. It is interesting, that these facts were reflected in Armenian sources in detail, too. Same sources point out the contribution of Turk to the formation of Armenians as nation. After Turk’s coming to Anadolu Armenians had become free of military obligations. Armenians received rights to open their own schools, to establish churches and to use their own language. As Armenians were experienced in trade affairs they soon managed to be involve in commerce in Turkey, later on they managed to involve in economy, too. Soon, they displayed their malevolent character and opposed Turkey. They dreamt the creation of the "Great Armenia" on the territories of Osman Turkey. For this purpose they appealed to the European states at first. But it was in vain and then they addressed to Russia.

    Armenians misused ingeniously of Tzar Peter’s I ideas of invasion to Southwards as well as his wishes to possess Southern Seas. It should be pointed out that Armenians contributed mostly to the coming of Russians to Caucasus. Armenians supported Russians by all means during Russian - Iranian and Russian - Turkish wars. Later on, as a compensation for that Armenians got from Russians everything they wanted. Armenians were empowered to be leaders in Turkish cities, regions and villages occupied by the army of the Tzar. Misusing given authorities to Armenians, they began to pursue a policy of genocide.

    At the beginning of XIX century peace agreements were concluded between Russia and Turkey and Russia and Iran. Soon 86.000 ethnic Armenians from Turkey and 40.000 ethnic Armenians from Iran migrated to our territories — Western Azerbaijan presently named Armenia. A region was also conferred to Armenians who settled on the territories of Iravan, Nakhchivan and Karabakh Khanates. Later, several times Russian writer A. Griboyedov, who played a prominent role in the sphere of resettlement of Armenians in Caucasus mentioned Armenians as a treacherous nation. It seems that, Russians guessed the prime purpose of Armenians at first. That is why in 1846 while establishing a province governing method the Armenian region was abolished.

    We could divide a policy of Armenians in Caucasus into two stages (lasting from beginning of XIX century till now): - from 20-30s to 80-90s strengthening of their positions on the territories of Azerbaijan; - beginning from 90s of the X I X century — claiming to the territories of Turkey and Azerbaijan.

    Another issue is too very important. On Caucasus in 1887 Armenians created "Gnchak" Party and in 1890 "Dashnaktsutun" Party. From that time their territorial claims systematically increased. Armenians used every possible means to make true their idea of creation of the "Great Armenia" in the Eastern provinces of the Osman Empire and on Caucasus populated by Turks and Azeris.

    In 1905-1906 they committed massacre in Baku. Later a Governor of Elizavetpol wrote in one of his letters that Armenians misused a chance and established borders on the territories of Azerbaijan where they lived together with Muslims. In some places they even exiled Muslims and populated their lands by Armenians migrated from Iran and Turkey. In 1906 a meeting of the Azeri and Armenian representatives was held. This meeting chaired by I. Vorontsov-Dashkov discussed issues of reconciliation. While opening meeting I. Vorontsov-Dashkov proposed not to look for guilty parties. There is an interesting fact that in 1988 M.S.Gorbachev, ex-leader of the USSR said the same words while opening a meeting. The Armenians were always in guilty. But they had always been justified.

    The World War I gave the best opportunities for Armenians to make their ideas true. A participation of Turkey in that War and the opening of Eastern front gave a chance to Armenians to do everything they wanted. Russian troops of Eastern front that consisted of many Armenian groupings and divisions battled against Turks. As a preventive and protective measures leadership of Osmanly government forced to move aggressive Armenians from front Sine of Eastern Anadolu to the other places of the Empire. Armenians presented those measures like a policy of genocide and launched an agitation campaign against Turks worldwide. That campaign is still in force.

    A collapse of Tzarism in Russia and a victory of the October Revolution gave a new impulse to the idea of Armenians to establish their own state. Eastern front was full of Armenian soldiers after Russia had left the war. Even during the war Armenians stole a lot of ammunitions and guns and transmitted everything confidentially to the territories of Azerbaijan, concentrating it mainly in Karabakh and Shamakhy. S. Shaumyan was appointed by V. Lenin as a Commissioner for Caucasus. Thus, S.Shaumyan came in Tiflis and was forced to leave the city in the same day. Nevertheless, in Baku Shaumyan was welcomed and even elected a Chairman of the Council of People's Representatives. Using his post Shaumyan did not permit to disarm Armenian dashnak groups coming back from front to Baku. It were the same Armenian groups which in March 1918 massacred Azeris. Shaumyan headed 6.000 soldiers and officers. Dashnaks headed 4.600 of them. It is necessary to point out that 70—80% of Soviet Army troops invaded in Baku in January 1990 comprised Armenians. In I918 Armenians saw a good possibility to occupy Baku. They began to look for suitable reasons to make their plans true. A long-lasting process of negotiations was held. Azeris did not want to be involved into a military conflict with Armenians. Finally, Armenians found a reason using an accidental death of a son of Zeynalabdin Tagiyev. They ordered to disarm representatives of Muslim division coming back from mentioned funeral in Baku. Representatives of division did not want to be disarmed. It was a weighty reason for Armenians to began comprehensive massacre of Azeris in Baku. At the same time Armenians attacked Azeris in the Garabag region and other regions of Azerbaijan.

    Our archives has "Events of March" book of Mammad Muradzade. During that period he was 17 or 18 years old. This book published in 1919 is very heart-touching. An author describes in an expressive way all scenes he witnessed. Armenians murdered his father and uncle at first. Then they killed his relatives. This young gentleman together with his two brothers could survive in a house of xxxish man. After conciliation on April 1 he began to look for his mother and reach Mayilov Theatre. Among persons leaving the Theatre author saw his mother. He followed her along a street full of Armenians. They were asking whether they became the possessors of Caucasus or not. It was not possible to suffer such insulting words of Armenians - the minority of the Baku population. In Baku Armenians created such conditions that did not give possibilities for some civilians to find out corpses of their relatives. A blood of innocent Azeris was like a puddle in the streets. In his book author blames ourselves, because

    Azeris themselves have always been trusting Armenians. It is a fact that Armenian killers were headed by Shaumyan. Along with accidents in Baku Armenians committed outrageous crimes in Shamakhy as well. The greatest number of persons murdered by Armenians belongs to Shamakhy. Shamakhy city was completely destroyed. Its 86 villages out of 120 were completely destroyed too. Our archives has a documents prepared by Ad - hoc Research Commission. These documents indicate exact numbers of persons murdered in villages of Shamakhy. A number of civilians murdered in 53 villages is about 10.000. Exact number of those killed in Shamakhy was not defined. After 1920 different numbers are given in immigration literature. One source informs about 12.000 killed Azeris, another one about 17.000. There even were such families in Shamakhy that were completely murdered.

    After Shamakhy Armenian gunmen moved towards Guba. S. Shaumyan had ordered to bolshevik Korganov and the last one sent 2000 armed Armenians headed by dashnak Amazaspan to Guba. They committed many crimes and killed thousands Azeris.

    Later on, severe atrocities against Azeris were committed by Armenians in Zangazur and Karabakh. Before October -November 1918 Armenians killed 10.000 persons in Zangazur and destroyed many Azeri villages.

    First Decree of newly established Azerbaijan People's Power (Jumhuriyyat) was devoted to the creation of Ad - hoc Commission aimed at investigation of crimes committed against Azeris during the World War 1st. On August 31, 1918 such Commission was established. It began its activities headed by Alakbar bay Khasmatov. Later on the Commission sent to the delegation of Azerbaijan in Paris 95 photos and 6 volumes of investigation materials. Unfortunately, neither those materials nor photos survived. During its activities Ad-hoc Investigating Commission prepared 36 volumes (more than 3500 papers) of investigating materials. Majority of those materials are being kept in our archives.

    After incidents in Guba, the head of the city met with A. Japaridze and S. Shaumyan. Giving the explanations he said that Japaridze was informed in details of those incidents. He gave serious attention to mentioned issues. S. Shaumyan's attitude was with mockery. He considered a death of 5-6 Muslims as a nothing serious.

    Ad-hoc Commission on Investigation prepared papers necessary to institute criminal proceedings against Armenians guilty in different crimes against Azeris. But later on all investigations on national conflicts were over. It was done because of amnesty proclaimed by Jumhuriyyat Parliament with an aim of the de-facto recognition of Azerbaijan at the Paris Peace Conference in January 1920. A victory of the Soviet Power in Transcaucasia gave nice possibilities for Armenians to misappropriate territories of Azerbaijan.

    In Soviet times Armenians had always been pursuing two purposes. The first one was to force Azeris to migrate from present Armenian territories. The second one was to increase their own land on the account of the territories of Azerbaijan. Both of their ideas were successful.

    All Azeri's new troubles are caused by our short memory. Azeris forget very quickly their past tragedies. They completely forgot tragedy of March 1918 and other incidents. They should not delete from our memory occurred tragedies in order to prevent the future ones.

    Corresponding Decrees of Mr. Heydar Aliyev, Azeri'S President (from December 18, 1997 and from March 26, 1998) arc of great importance. Those Decrees are our instructions. They embrace all spheres of necessary work to be done. I think that one of our main commitments is to inform the world community about tragedies of Azeris and to expose a real nature of Armenians.
    Last edited by ottomans; 07-27-2007, 08:02 AM.
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    Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

    biggest BS I have heard in a while. Go read some history lagot. And there wasn't a state named azerbaijan before 1918 so how can there be a Western Azerbaijan. you're so stupid that's actually funny

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      Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
      biggest BS I have heard in a while. Go read some history lagot. And there wasn't a state named azerbaijan before 1918 so how can there be a Western Azerbaijan. you're so stupid that's actually funny
      I see that your stupid brain was hurt!! They are reals and your murder nation made genocide to innocent humans! Karabağ is belongs to Azerbeycan for 1000 years!
      Have you got a clear brain? no,You haven't ! Your murder nation made masssacre ! Why are you not agree!!! Your animal soldiers had killed women,children many innocents!!
      Last edited by ottomans; 07-27-2007, 12:24 PM.
      "Nobleman Ottoman Young" to trusts

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        Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

        Originally posted by ottomans View Post
        I see that your stupid brain was hurt!! They are reals and your murder nation made genocide to innocent humans! Karabağ is belongs to Azerbeycan for 1000 years!
        Have you got a clear brain? no,You haven't ! Your murder nation made masssacre ! Why are you not agree!!! Your animal soldiers had killed women,children many innocents!!
        Give me proof if you can't stop talking and azeris don't even exist for a centur how can they be around for 1000 years

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        • #5
          Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

          do you know "Turan idea"? Azeries,Kazaks,Turkmen,Ozbek,Tanjick and Turk nations are same nations....So Ozbekistan,Turkmenistan,Kazakistan,Tanjictistan,Az erbaijian are Turkey's brothers. We speak same language! by the way,how can Azer(They are Oughz Turks) around there? we made war with Bziyans Empire in 1048,after that mazgirt war 1071 we won both of them....now Mazgirt is Erzincan city's town eastern Turkey! This is a proof
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            Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

            quick lesson in history and politics, the sides who were fighting in mazakirt were the byzantine empire and the turkish seljuks as far as I remebere there were non Azeri there and the places was Armenian land they were fighting on.
            And those Asian countries you're talking about are allys of Armenia and don't want anything to do with Turkey or Azerbajan a coutry that exists from 1918

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              Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

              Originally posted by ottomans View Post
              I see that your stupid brain was hurt!! They are reals and your murder nation made genocide to innocent humans! Karabağ is belongs to Azerbeycan for 1000 years!
              Have you got a clear brain? no,You haven't ! Your murder nation made masssacre ! Why are you not agree!!! Your animal soldiers had killed women,children many innocents!!
              Are you talking about Turky? Karabag is belong to Azerbaycan for 1000 years? Why 1000? Why not say 1 million years? Or why stop there ... the Universe is a few billion years old. Why don't you say "Karabag is belongs to Azerbaycan for 5 billion years?"

              By the way, the name of the place is "Artsax" not "Karabag".
              this post = teh win.

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              • #8
                Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

                Originally posted by Sip View Post
                By the way, the name of the place is "Artsax" not "Karabag".
                Artsax!! Ahsax=Ahsex=Ohsex Do you wanna our sedge! Interesting request!!!
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                  Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

                  Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                  quick lesson in history and politics, the sides who were fighting in mazakirt were the byzantine empire and the turkish seljuks as far as I remebere there were non Azeri there and the places was Armenian land they were fighting on.
                  And those Asian countries you're talking about are allys of Armenia and don't want anything to do with Turkey or Azerbajan a coutry that exists from 1918
                  Hey "Azer" word is special! They and we are same! For instance Germany=Austria .....now look Turkey=Azerbeijian Turkey=Turkmenistan Turkey=Ozbekistan.....we are Oghuz Turks we are Seljuk Turks and Seljuk was creatured by Oghuz Turks,Observe Turkey's Azerbajian's and Turkmenistan's language! And it is posible you can be ally with our brothers
                  Last edited by ottomans; 07-27-2007, 02:37 PM.
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                    Re: Turk=Azeri Genocide(Karabag,Azerbajian)

                    Originally posted by ottomans View Post
                    Hey "Azer" word is special! They and we are same! For instance Germany=Austria .....now look Turkey=Azerbeijian Turkey=Turkmenistan Turkey=Ozbekistan.....we are Oghuz Turks we are Seljuk Turks and Seljuk was creatured by Oghuz Turks,Observe Turkey's Azerbajian's and Turkmenistan's language! And it is posible you can be ally with our brothers
                    When will you show me any proof about azeris being there befoer 1918, show me a map or documents or something or els your to dum to discus on a mature level

                    @Sip Don't know if t's the same person but if it isn't than they are the dumst motherxxxxer I've seen

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