x-x-x-i-s-h historian to talk about Young Turks in Glendale, CA

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http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=23131

Historian Christopher Jon Bjerkness to deliver lecture on Armenian Genocide
30.07.2007 18:35 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Historian from Chicago Christopher Jon Bjerkness will speak on the topic of “Who were the Young Turks” in Glendale, California. The lecture is scheduled for August 8, the PanARMENIAN.Net was told in the Armenian community of Glendale. Christopher Jon Bjerkness has written several books and articles on the history of the theory of relativity. Discovering the true significance of the fall of the Ottoman Empire, he began to investigate the unwritten history of the Armenian Genocide. He has published his findings in a new book which identifies the ethnic origins and overall agenda of the “Young Turks”, including their motives for committing Genocide against Armenians.

A xxx by descent, Bjerkness alleges xxxs for the 1915 Armenian Genocide in his latest book entitled “The xxxish Genocide of Armenian Christians”.

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Great .. thanks to garbage dwellers like this guy, we will have "Armenian Genocide recognition", "Holocaust Denial", "Einstein is a plagiarist" in the same sentence all over the place. That is bound to give a lot of credibility to the Armenian Genocide issue indeed.

Sometimes I wish some people would just shut their face and go die somewhere.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again ... I don't know what's worse .. Turks denying the Genocide or the Nazis who pretend to give a damn about Armenians.

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Sip,

what about the x-x-x-x in the U.S. who act as a proxy for Turks to lobby U.S. politicians to support the Turkish position that there was no actual genocide.

What do you think about them??

Is it possible that the help the Turks b/c of their own self-interest of preventing Turkish x-x-x-x from being implicated in the Armenian tragedy?

C'mon since when has less discourse on this event been more. The same forces that don't want us to have genocide recognition are elated when we oppose others from speaking on some particular wrinkle on this issue.

Sounds like you sympathize with Armenian genocide deniers.

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Sounds like you sympathize with Armenian genocide deniers.

Never ... in the same way that I don't sympathize with Israel. But claiming "Holocaust is a hoax" in order to bring attention to Armenian Genocide is a very very very bad move in my opinion.

Israel needs Turkey as an ally ... so it makes sense that they will kiss Turkish ass (and so will the US by association). But confusing "Zionism" with "Genocide Denial" in this day and age is very counter productive, if for nothing else, then because the whole world accepts the Holocaust as fact.

It's one thing to try to push Genocide recognition. It's a completely another thing to try to push Holocaust denial while using Genocide recognition as an excuse.

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Sometimes I wish some people would just shut their face and go die somewhere.

I couldn't agree more. These naive people are creating unnecessary problems.

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Educate me?

Is Mr. Bjerknes a Nazi? What difference does Mr. Bjeknes' ideological beliefs make on the historical events re: the Armenian Genocide? What weight does one's ideological beliefs have on their ability to express their opinion?

If you are a capitalist, you get to speak. If you are a communist, you do not get to speak.

Is a person a liar merely because of his ideological beliefs? Is there a difference between Nazism and Turkishness? Turkishness and Zionism? Nazism and Zionism?

Is Shimon Peres a Zionist? So, Zionists can say that the Armenian Genocide never occurred.

But, Nazis, that can't say that Turkish x-x-x-x may have comprised a portion of the Young Turks and this organization, or an ad hoc committee within it, was responsible in part for drawing the cleanisng plan and seeing it through.

Whatever Mr. Bjerknes is? He is a courageous s.o.b. for opening a dialogue, controversial, as it may be, on the Armenian Genocide. Of course, he picked Glendale.

But, he is still speaking in the backyard of members of American xxxish lobbying organizations that will gladly act as messenger pigeons for Turkish x-x-x-x and spread the Turkish message that the genocide recognition resolution should be denied. When Armenian x-x-x-x requested these organizations send their competing message to the halls of Congress, was there any reciprocation.

Members of those organizations will undoubtedly call him a moonbat.

Do Zionists use the Holocaust for political purposes? Be careful, that's a loaded question.

Members of these same American xxxish lobbying organizations are active in think-tanks seeking regime change in Iran. What effect will prospective regime change have on the apparently organic relationship between these two nations now. Armenia already has xxxish-backed nations spreading Turkishness on its borders.

Hey, lets go for three. Its a magic number. Not!!!

Is there a word for genocide denier? anti-Armenian? anti-Christian?

All I know is when Ahmenijad held a debate on the Holocaust that included xxxish rabbis, local, national and internationl news sources published the press releases of these American xxxish lobbying organizations condemning Ahmenijad as a Holocaust denier. Other x-x-x-x-x-x bashed the Rabbis as moonbats.

When these same lobbying organizations brought a letter of Turkish x-x-x-x to the Hill wherein the Turks sought support for the denial of the resolution, did these same media channels publish any reports that these oganizations openly spread the request of genocide deniers.

No. Why is that? No tourism ad dollars to fill the broadcaster's coiffers??

Free speech is pure and cheap. Politics are dirty and steep. Our homeland is pure but modest.

Why would you want to plug the release valve, the exchange of ideas? What purpose does that serve the cause of genocide recognition?

Let him speak. Let these organizations take a position.

Perhaps, he's really a mole for these same lobbying organizations. Who knows?

But, a Nazi?? That's a harsh frickin statement.

Hey, don't believe Ara, he's an Armenian from Lernamerdz.

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Great .. thanks to garbage dwellers like this guy, we will have "Armenian Genocide recognition", "Holocaust Denial", "Einstein is a plagiarist" in the same sentence all over the place. That is bound to give a lot of credibility to the Armenian Genocide issue indeed.

Why??? You have doubts about the involvement of Jews in the Armenian Genocide?
Who doesn't know that the forefathers of Israel encouraged Turds to massacre Armenians?

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Re: x-x-x-i-s-h historian to talk about Young Turks in Glendale, CA

Armenian historians have stated this position (i.e. xxxs comprised a portion of the Young Turks) also with citations to contemporary historical writings of the time.

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http://www.nysun.com/article/58997

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We can't believe Hillel, he's a x-x-x

Wait, so is the historian who is going to speak about their involvment in the Armenian genocide.

Those x-x-x-x want to be the first in everything.

Just kidding.

Didn't the U.N. acknowledge Zionism as a racist ideology?

http://www.xxxishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/unga3379.html

So, what is exactly the word for someone that is anti-Armenian? Hmm............. Looking pretty ZIONIST, to me. Ergo, one Shimon Peres. Heck, he is more like Hitler than Ahmenijad. It least Ahmenijad will allow discourse about the Holocaust.

Do you understand that these same American x-x-x-i-s-h lobbying organizations go apeshiat when any group or individual says something contrary to their interests. All the while, they claim to promote humanitarian causes, etc. and carry messages encouraging U.S. politicians to object to the passing of the genocide recognition resolution.

And, if you speak about them unfavorably they brand you an anti-semite or a moonbat or both. If you attempt to debate the Holocaust, you are an anti-semite.

Really, I didn't see them say anything when KCET was going to show a program on the Genocide and then allow a debate that included Turks disputing this event. They were silent.

When the U.N. pulled the genocide display that included reference to the Armenian tragedy, they were silent.

And, if you ask them to speak the truth on the Armenian genocide, they waffle, sit on the fence or cloud the issues.

Speak now. Let them not say we were silent.