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Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance
Well, Siamanto, we are both kind of right about the International Herald Tribune.
It appears to be a European affiliate of the New York Times edited in Paris. Thus, it would be fair to call it a French Newspaper, almost. It certainly is a European newspaper. But, there is no European state per se, yes, yes, European Union. Yet, France still remains and the Atlantic edition is originating from Paris. Hence, French newspaper.
I think the real story here is that our so-called American-Armenian leaders are unable to control the message in media channels. Even as Foxman reveals his ugliness, over and over again, with actions and words, he has the ability to control the spin despite all the firepower he has provided the American media to help dig his figurative death as a viable American J-ewish leader.
The only national lobby leader to speak is Mr. Hamparian and it is more often than not in an 'also ran' position.
See, those people (read: HOLOCAUST denying revisionists) out there that are like these J-ewish lobbyists reluctant to recognize historical fact of an ethnic or religious community being exterminated by a state actor are unable to deny the Holocaust in some European nations. Its a crime. As lobbying organizations like the ADL, AJC, etc. and similar to them have lobbied these nations to recognize the Holocaust at a political level. (And, no, I am not disputing that there was a Holocaust)
These organizations were not concerned of negative backlash that would occur to their constituents upon Holocast recognition.
In fact, they used the word Holocaust that was coined after the Nazi atrocities were committed for political purposes. They've engraved the word into the history books. There can be no debate.
Meanwhile, they twist words, distort truth, obfuscate the obvious and basically lie when it comes to the recognition of the Armenian genocide.
They use ingenious, disingenuous, falsehoods created by Nobel Peace prize winner Elie Weasel to almost call the genocide a genocide except for the fact that the word didn't exist when Turkey acted so horrificly.
Mr. Weasel created the word Holocaust. Based on his screwy, meshuggne logic, the Nazi's crimes of humanity against the J-ews wasn't really a HOLOCAUST because the word didn't exist as he created the word after the Nazi regime crumbled.
These J-ewish leaders will even disrespect esteemed individuals like Mr. Lemkin, the J-ewish lawyer who created the word Genocide based on the Armenian tragedy to preserve the political strength they gained on the J-ewish people we cannot bring back.
They won't feed you, but they'll eat you.
They tell us to debate it with the Turks.
Umm, if they are afraid of what would happen to Turkish J-ews if the U.S. recognized the Armenian genocide, what do you think happened if we had debates on the topic with turkish historians. They aren't concerned about revenge.
They are worried of losing the conch shell, of being pushed off the stage, of losing the juice.
Heck, they have no regard for the J-ewish community in Armenia.
Did the AJC, ADL, JINSA or B'nai B'irth take the Armenian J-ewish community's message for genocide recognition to members of the U.S. congress? No.
The head of the AJC WR claimed that they had no cooperation agreement with J-ews in Armenia. Do they have written agreements to represent every J-ew in America. No.
And, as evidenced by the Watertown pushback, they don't actually represent every J-ew in America. Some of them are far more reasonable, honest, ethical and moral than Mr. Foxman, Mr. Harris, etc.
You don't hear them feigning concern for the well-being of Armenian J-ews. Why is that? Because they can't gain politically by pretending to care about them.
They are insincere, they are hypocrits, they are bigots and they are liars.
Look no further than Hrant Dink. The AJC claims to be protectors of fundamental rights, they frequently issues press releases re: the well-being of dissident, oppressed journalists stuck in a undemocratic country but have they ever come to the defense of an Armenian journalist in Turkey, or a Turkish one for that matter.
When journalists were being prosecuted for anti-Turkishness, did any of these organizations make a peep. Did they come to the rescue, were they concerned for the loss of human life.
No, in fact, to the contrary, one or more of these organizations likely influenced Richard Lugar who has a minimal Turkish constituency in his Indiana district to stonewall a Congressional resolution re: condemning Hrant Dink's murder. Why, for fear that such a resolution would defame Turkish history.
Hey, truth is a defense to defamation and murder is a crime.
They tell us that the Armenian tragedy is still a matter for debate and no benefit will come by U.S. recognition of the GENOCIDE. Meanwhile they have made DARFUR a national issue and used Hollywood actors like George Clooney to give them cover and gather them influence.
They push Sudan divestment programs, sanctions on nations doing business with Sudan and government recognition of the Darfurian Tragedy as GENOCIDE.
And, we indulge them as we should because it is the right thing to do.
But, Darfur is a matter for debate. The Armenian Genocide is not. Yet, they controlled the platform, dominated the bully pulpit, and framed the message.
And our leaders demonstrate their impotence, incompetence and immaturity.
Where is GEORGE CLOONEY? What happened to NOT ON OUR WATCH. This is all dribble, distortion and spin conducted at the behest and delight of American J-ewish advocacy groups.
If they pound Darfur, the U.S. government will have no time, patience or resources to address the Armenian genocide. They hope to defeat the genocide bills by way of message attrition.
In this case, these organizations are as bad as the message they have endorsed.
It has revealed them for what they are in their hearts: GENOCIDE DENIERS.
Immoral, biased, power-hungry, anti-Armenian, GENOCIDE DENIERS.
They will act politically and contrary to historical fact in order to withhold the truth. All the while blabbing out of both sides of their mouth.
And, the media spreads their distorted message in an unequal fashion with little or no opposition, dissent or push back.
Well, Siamanto, we are both kind of right about the International Herald Tribune.
It appears to be a European affiliate of the New York Times edited in Paris. Thus, it would be fair to call it a French Newspaper, almost. It certainly is a European newspaper. But, there is no European state per se, yes, yes, European Union. Yet, France still remains and the Atlantic edition is originating from Paris. Hence, French newspaper.
I think the real story here is that our so-called American-Armenian leaders are unable to control the message in media channels. Even as Foxman reveals his ugliness, over and over again, with actions and words, he has the ability to control the spin despite all the firepower he has provided the American media to help dig his figurative death as a viable American J-ewish leader.
The only national lobby leader to speak is Mr. Hamparian and it is more often than not in an 'also ran' position.
See, those people (read: HOLOCAUST denying revisionists) out there that are like these J-ewish lobbyists reluctant to recognize historical fact of an ethnic or religious community being exterminated by a state actor are unable to deny the Holocaust in some European nations. Its a crime. As lobbying organizations like the ADL, AJC, etc. and similar to them have lobbied these nations to recognize the Holocaust at a political level. (And, no, I am not disputing that there was a Holocaust)
These organizations were not concerned of negative backlash that would occur to their constituents upon Holocast recognition.
In fact, they used the word Holocaust that was coined after the Nazi atrocities were committed for political purposes. They've engraved the word into the history books. There can be no debate.
Meanwhile, they twist words, distort truth, obfuscate the obvious and basically lie when it comes to the recognition of the Armenian genocide.
They use ingenious, disingenuous, falsehoods created by Nobel Peace prize winner Elie Weasel to almost call the genocide a genocide except for the fact that the word didn't exist when Turkey acted so horrificly.
Mr. Weasel created the word Holocaust. Based on his screwy, meshuggne logic, the Nazi's crimes of humanity against the J-ews wasn't really a HOLOCAUST because the word didn't exist as he created the word after the Nazi regime crumbled.
These J-ewish leaders will even disrespect esteemed individuals like Mr. Lemkin, the J-ewish lawyer who created the word Genocide based on the Armenian tragedy to preserve the political strength they gained on the J-ewish people we cannot bring back.
They won't feed you, but they'll eat you.
They tell us to debate it with the Turks.
Umm, if they are afraid of what would happen to Turkish J-ews if the U.S. recognized the Armenian genocide, what do you think happened if we had debates on the topic with turkish historians. They aren't concerned about revenge.
They are worried of losing the conch shell, of being pushed off the stage, of losing the juice.
Heck, they have no regard for the J-ewish community in Armenia.
Did the AJC, ADL, JINSA or B'nai B'irth take the Armenian J-ewish community's message for genocide recognition to members of the U.S. congress? No.
The head of the AJC WR claimed that they had no cooperation agreement with J-ews in Armenia. Do they have written agreements to represent every J-ew in America. No.
And, as evidenced by the Watertown pushback, they don't actually represent every J-ew in America. Some of them are far more reasonable, honest, ethical and moral than Mr. Foxman, Mr. Harris, etc.
You don't hear them feigning concern for the well-being of Armenian J-ews. Why is that? Because they can't gain politically by pretending to care about them.
They are insincere, they are hypocrits, they are bigots and they are liars.
Look no further than Hrant Dink. The AJC claims to be protectors of fundamental rights, they frequently issues press releases re: the well-being of dissident, oppressed journalists stuck in a undemocratic country but have they ever come to the defense of an Armenian journalist in Turkey, or a Turkish one for that matter.
When journalists were being prosecuted for anti-Turkishness, did any of these organizations make a peep. Did they come to the rescue, were they concerned for the loss of human life.
No, in fact, to the contrary, one or more of these organizations likely influenced Richard Lugar who has a minimal Turkish constituency in his Indiana district to stonewall a Congressional resolution re: condemning Hrant Dink's murder. Why, for fear that such a resolution would defame Turkish history.
Hey, truth is a defense to defamation and murder is a crime.
They tell us that the Armenian tragedy is still a matter for debate and no benefit will come by U.S. recognition of the GENOCIDE. Meanwhile they have made DARFUR a national issue and used Hollywood actors like George Clooney to give them cover and gather them influence.
They push Sudan divestment programs, sanctions on nations doing business with Sudan and government recognition of the Darfurian Tragedy as GENOCIDE.
And, we indulge them as we should because it is the right thing to do.
But, Darfur is a matter for debate. The Armenian Genocide is not. Yet, they controlled the platform, dominated the bully pulpit, and framed the message.
And our leaders demonstrate their impotence, incompetence and immaturity.
Where is GEORGE CLOONEY? What happened to NOT ON OUR WATCH. This is all dribble, distortion and spin conducted at the behest and delight of American J-ewish advocacy groups.
If they pound Darfur, the U.S. government will have no time, patience or resources to address the Armenian genocide. They hope to defeat the genocide bills by way of message attrition.
In this case, these organizations are as bad as the message they have endorsed.
It has revealed them for what they are in their hearts: GENOCIDE DENIERS.
Immoral, biased, power-hungry, anti-Armenian, GENOCIDE DENIERS.
They will act politically and contrary to historical fact in order to withhold the truth. All the while blabbing out of both sides of their mouth.
And, the media spreads their distorted message in an unequal fashion with little or no opposition, dissent or push back.
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