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  • #11
    Originally posted by Joseph
    This document has been around since it was first printed in '26. I do not personally have a copy of it but I can deduce that the fact that the image of the that newspaper has been kicking around for over 80 years, it is not a forgery. Thought the newspaper company has been defunct for quite some time, my guess is that an original can be found in the Library of Congress, along with other original documents that attest to the Genocide.

    If on Judgment Day, God descended from Heaven and testified to the truth of the genocide of Armenians, Assyrians on Pontus Greeks; the Turks would still ask for more proof or claim God is fabricating the evidence. They neither want to or are prepared to believe.

    And on the flipside when mentioning Turkish/Ottoman documents that support the reality of the Genocide, the Turks will dismiss all of them as forgeries, implying the documents in the Ottoman archives supporting their "thesis" have not been selected, manipulated, edited, and doctored in any way; that they are clean.

    I agree with what you say.
    Since they learn from babies that these genocides are not true ,they will never believe anyone.

    The very important thing is that Turkey did NOT always denied the genocide.
    Before 1939 ,all turks of these areas knew what happened to the armenians and other christians. They didn't deny these facts. But there was a shadow over these things. Turks preferred not to talk about the fate of the christians of turkey. They pretended that the christians just gone. However they didn't deny the massacres.
    The ottoman empire has even took to trial the major young turks responsible for the genocides. Mustafa Kemal avoided those that were involved in the armenian genocide and tried to pick the more ''clean'' young turks as his generals. Of course many of his generals like Nurrendin Pasha (the general that slyed hundrends of thousands of greeks in Pontos) were in fact genocidal generals. Mustafa Kemal tried to ''clean'' the turkish nation of the responsibility by not talking about what happened to the christians. ALL the politicians knew what happened and this can be proved with the quotes of Mustafa Kemal, Churchill, Roosvelt, Hitler. Turkey didn't even talk about the so called ''relocation of the armenians''. The problem with turkey started after the WW2. Then the armenians started claiming that their massacres were in fact a genocide as the holocaust was. This is what really turkey was afraid of. Turkey is afraid of the responsibility. Turkey before didn't believe that will have to pay or held responsible for the great crime of armenian extermination. Turkey then started the grand propaganda to persuade the world that these massacres never happened. Turkey failed that. Now they try to create stories of armenian revolts. Turkey now admits the massacres but claims that this was not planned. Turkey just tries to clean herself.



    Why not turk citizen can believe that the genocide is true:

    I will make some questions:
    If I said that Greek Revolution is a lie and i gave a paper that prove that, would anyone believe me?
    If I said that Hitler was never born, and i gave a paper that prove that, would anyone believe me?
    If i said that ancient greeks didn't exist and all the history books were tales of medieval writers ,would anyone believe me?
    ANSWER: NO!
    why? answer: because we all learn the above from our families, country and historians, we do not have proofs but we believe what they say to us.


    If i say to a turk that armenian genocide is true (as it is)
    ,would he believe me?
    NO
    why?
    because he learns from baby age that armenian genocide is lie and armenians have a conspiracy against turkey...

    YOU CANNOT BELIEVE SOMETHING WHEN YOU LEARN THE OPPOSITE FOR SO MANY YEARS!
    turks cannot believe they did such a thing...

    to a turk to say that armenian genocide is true is like saying that ancient greeks didn't exist, or hitler was not born or greek revolution never happened! They will never believe that.

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    • #12
      A question that i usually do to a turk is 'What he needs, as proof to believe the armenian genocide'
      no turk answer this question

      if he does answer, and i give this proof, he will have to admit the genocide after, and he knows that he won't!
      They never say what they need for proof, they just say that proof is no enough...

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