Turkey And NAZI GERMANY

[CRDA-France]

I have begun a new page.

There are some bibliographical references. There are three important articles in Russian of Professor R.P. Konstantinian which must be scanned or numerized :

- Les relations commerciales turco-allemandes durant la 2ème Guerre mondiale, Leraper Hayasdani Kidoutiounéri, Erévan, 1970-VI, pp34-39

- La propagande panturque en Turquie durant la 2ème Guerre mondiale, Banper Erévani Hamalsarani, Erévan, 1974-I, pp 198-205

- L'interpénétration des idées germano-nazies en Turquie avant et pendant la 2ème Guerre mondiale, Banper Erévani Hamalsarani, Erévan, 1976-I, pp 235-240

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histo...quie_nazis.htm

There are also some www on anti-semitic political approaches in that period.

Nil

[priji]

http://www.unmuseum.org/hitlerwins.htm

[bell-the-cat]

http://www.unmuseum.org/hitlerwins.htm

The authors of that webpage have a serious case of the curse of using small-scale maps. Or, to rephrase (and relocate) a 19th century quote by Lord Salisbury "the distance between Bulgaria and Baku or Kirkuk is not to be measured by the finger and a thumb, but by a rule".

[CRDA-France]

Besides the historical facts, there is the present CONTRAST between post-wars Germany and Turkey :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr_9infor...steturquie.htm

It is important. People do not think of it. It is important to make the towns or villages informed which are twin-cities with the ones of Germany. I do not know regarding Anglo-Saxon countries, but in France there are very numerous ones which are twin cities with Germany :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr_9infor...5allemagne.htm

Nil (Paris, France)
#2086

[CRDA-France]

La politique de la Turquie pendant la seconde guerre mondiale,
Aristakes Sahradian, Krounk, Erévan, 1984-XII, pp.8-10

I remember there was an English edition of monthly magazine "Krounk". Maybe there may be this article published in English.

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/a_d/20_turquie_wwii1.htm

Which is important is to find the historiographical articles on this subject in specialized magazines of Soviet Armenia and even in russian :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/2armenologie/bibliographie.htm

Nil (Paris, France)
# 2101

[CRDA-France]

To point out the relations between Turkey and Nazi Germany, we can recall the historical and cultural relations between the Armenians and Germany.

Here are some pages in French and in Armenian :

= from the Middle Ages to the XIXcenturies :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/par_pays/allemagne10.htm

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/a_d/16_ory_europe.htm

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/a_d/16_leibniz.htm

http://www.crda-france.org/0hh/6europe_siecle/16_leibniz0128.htm

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/a_d/16_kant.htm

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/par_pays/allemagne16_18.htm

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/2armenologie/wagner.htm

= about our contemporary time :

- German witnesses denouncing the crime of 1915 Genocide : Walter Rössler, Lepsius, Armin Wegner, German researchers, etc, etc...

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/a_d/20_allemagne_1915.htm

- the implication of Imperial Germany in the Armenian Genocide "Germany and the Secret Genocide" Video :

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=6575927557266281256&q=armenian+genocide+duration%3Along

There are 8 Armenian pages I shall scan one day (Academician Aprahamian of Yerevan 1967)
http://www.crda-france.org/0hh/6_europe2/187german.htm .

I remind that there are German-Armenian Associations :
- Deutsch-Armenische Gesellschaft (DAG) : http://www.deutsch-armenische-gesellschaft.de:80/
- http://www.armenien.de/home.htm
- Armenian Municipalities and Associations in Germany : http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-79128361.html
- Zentralrat der Armenier in Deutschland : http://www.d-armenier.de/cms/html/index.php
- Haias - www.armenien.am
- anerkennung : http://www.aga-online.org/de/aktionen/index.php

Nil (Paris, France)

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/4diaspora/2francophonie/3allemagne.htm

#2361

Translation French >> English :

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

http://dictionnaire.tv5.org/

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Something Interesting I found

Nothing to do with Turkey and Germany as such, but about an Armenian French Hero :

Taken from http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/m/a.htm

Manouchian, Missak (1906-1944)


French Resistance leader. Born in 1906 to Armenian parents in Turkey, he left there as a youth after his father was killed in a massacre and his mother died through disease.

In France he quickly became involved in Armenian literary circles, editing two literary magazines. He joined the French Communist Party (PCF) in 1934, and was also a member of the Armenian branch of its immigrant section, the Main d'oeuvre immigrée.

Upon France’s defeat in World War II, he remained in the MOI, where he was in charge of the Armenians’ clandestine and resistance activities. In 1943 he was transferred to the multi-national umbrella organization of foreign resistance fighters, the FTP-MOI, and was put in charge of the Parisian section.

After carrying out numerous actions, Manouchian and the bulk of his comrades were captured in November 1943 and executed on February 21, 1944.

Their trial was the subject of a large-scale Nazi and collaborationist propaganda campaign, painting the resistance as a tool of foreigners. The most famous feature of this campaign was l'Affiche Rouge, the Red Poster, which was distributed throughout France and which described them as “the army of crime.”

The group achieved immortality as “The Manouchian Group,” and in 1955 Louis Aragon wrote a poem about them, whose final stanza was:

They were twenty-three when the rifles blossomed
Twenty-three who gave their hearts before their time
Twenty-three foreigners but still our brothers
Twenty-three who loved life to death
Twenty-three who cried out “France!” as they fell.

See: Melinée Manouchian — Manouchian and Philippe Ganier Raymond — L'Affiche Rouge.

[Joseph]

Nothing to do with Turkey and Germany as such, but about an Armenian French Hero :

Taken from http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/m/a.htm

Manouchian, Missak (1906-1944)


French Resistance leader. Born in 1906 to Armenian parents in Turkey, he left there as a youth after his father was killed in a massacre and his mother died through disease.

In France he quickly became involved in Armenian literary circles, editing two literary magazines. He joined the French Communist Party (PCF) in 1934, and was also a member of the Armenian branch of its immigrant section, the Main d'oeuvre immigrée.

Upon France’s defeat in World War II, he remained in the MOI, where he was in charge of the Armenians’ clandestine and resistance activities. In 1943 he was transferred to the multi-national umbrella organization of foreign resistance fighters, the FTP-MOI, and was put in charge of the Parisian section.

After carrying out numerous actions, Manouchian and the bulk of his comrades were captured in November 1943 and executed on February 21, 1944.

Their trial was the subject of a large-scale Nazi and collaborationist propaganda campaign, painting the resistance as a tool of foreigners. The most famous feature of this campaign was l'Affiche Rouge, the Red Poster, which was distributed throughout France and which described them as “the army of crime.”

The group achieved immortality as “The Manouchian Group,” and in 1955 Louis Aragon wrote a poem about them, whose final stanza was:

They were twenty-three when the rifles blossomed
Twenty-three who gave their hearts before their time
Twenty-three foreigners but still our brothers
Twenty-three who loved life to death
Twenty-three who cried out “France!” as they fell.

See: Melinée Manouchian — Manouchian and Philippe Ganier Raymond — L'Affiche Rouge.

Muchisimas Pedro!

[Pedro Xaramillo]

You are welcome

I take it you meant Muchisimas as Muchisimas gracias, not the insult (a colloquil expression in Mexican Spanish equivalent to saying a load of crap)


I have some more about Armenians who helped defend France, and who helped defend the Polish

At te moment I am finding some stuff on SS Hanzhar and SS Skaderbeg which were Nazi units comprised of Albanians and Turks.
Will post soon

[Joseph]

I take it you meant Muchisimas as Muchisimas gracias, not the insult (a colloquil expression in Mexican Spanish equivalent to saying a load of crap)


I have some more about Armenians who helped defend France, and who helped defend the Polish

At te moment I am finding some stuff on SS Hanzhar and SS Skaderbeg which were Nazi units comprised of Albanians and Turks.
Will post soon

Muchisimas gracias!!! In Argentina it's not an insult most definitely.

The Azeris, Tatars and Turkmens had units as well.