The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

[Shant03]

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German has balls, hats off to them!

[Mher]

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Well there are two big obstacle for American Presidents to say the "G" word.........AIPAC and the reliance on Turkish airbases and the road to ME. Same roads Armenians were taken to desert. Turkey threatens to close all that.

Every former American President out of office say it was genocide no doubt. Regan said it the best.

Even the Reagan quote I've heard was pretty much sneaked in there by an Armenian without much awareness by Reagan

Those are excuses and nothing more. The Israeli-Turkish relation is not strong enough anymore to maintain that support from ADL/AIPAC, and the base in Turkey is not the end of the world. Many countries have much bigger reasons to not upset Turkey, and they still do it.

There is no countries out there more to lose than Germany with its massive Turkish population as well as its trade relations and yet it did what it had to do, and you know what, the next day, the world went on, and Turkey still hoped its existence would be acknowledged by the most powerful country in Europe.

[Eddo211]

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Well there are two big obstacle for American Presidents to say the "G" word.........AIPAC and the reliance on Turkish airbases and the road to ME. Same roads Armenians were taken to desert. Turkey threatens to close all that.

Every former American President out of office say it was genocide no doubt. Regan said it the best.

[Mher]

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That is a welcome observation.
Dispite the obvious economic/politicle reason to deny the --- obvious truth --- as Obama et al are using , in fact the truth is known by all serious honest seekers.
Your observation brings some hope to that simple observation ... Everyone actually knows the truth of what really took place. Too much photographic evidence ,Armin Wagner, etc... , too much eye witness accounts bt too many ....
The dishonesty of the turc is --- KNOW --- on the world stage.
Front and center.
They are now digging the grave for their lies even deeper than the world has just expressed are DEAD.

Obama is just mentally weak, and not enough of a leader to make difficult decisive decisions.That's the only rational conclusion I can draw following Putin's recent actions and comments in regards to the Centennial. If Putin, president of a country that is actually near Turkey, actually dependent on Turkey, with a weaker military, and a much weaker economy than America, can afford to so boldly defy Turkey, you can't tell me that America can't do the same.

[Artashes]

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Pretty sick society if they silence dissent that way.

But a society committing multiple genocides without remorse, then denying they ever happened, has to warp Turkish minds and make them authoritarian or fascist.

Not as bad as the 1984 hate cult in Azerbaijan though.

Yes, there aren't any Hayr left in monkey town.
Still I think the west turc killed and forcefully abducted millions more human beings than the scum to the east.
These genocides and mass mudders and enslavements did --- NOT --- start with the last genocide, but we're indicative of their conduct toward all they came upon from *** the very beginning ***.
The culture of the turcs to our east and west is --- SOLELY --- based on murder , rape , inslavement , and torture.
That is the true turc heritage .

[hipeter924]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

Pretty sick society if they silence dissent that way.

But a society committing multiple genocides without remorse, then denying they ever happened, has to warp Turkish minds and make them authoritarian or fascist.

Not as bad as the 1984 hate cult in Azerbaijan though.

[Haykakan]

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POLICE IN ISTANBUL ATTACK PARTICIPANTS OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE CENTENNIAL EVENT (VIDEO)

21:42 | April 24,2015 | Politics

Participants of a demonstration in commemoration of the Armenian
Genocide were attacked by police officers in Istanbul, News.am reports.

The event was organized by the students of the Istanbul Technical
University. The students installed the posters of Hrant Dink, Sevak
Balikci and Armenian intellectuals who were arrested and killed on
April 24.

The security guards of the university and police officers tried to
remove the posters, with some police officers using force against
the participants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPKujrpOoQ

http://en.a1plus.am/1210406.html

[Artashes]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

Short of British news, the events in Turkey were pretty much ignored in news from around the world while the Centennial is still the most popular topic on Facebook and on the front page of every site

That is a welcome observation.
Dispite the obvious economic/politicle reason to deny the --- obvious truth --- as Obama et al are using , in fact the truth is known by all serious honest seekers.
Your observation brings some hope to that simple observation ... Everyone actually knows the truth of what really took place. Too much photographic evidence ,Armin Wagner, etc... , too much eye witness accounts bt too many ....
The dishonesty of the turc is --- KNOW --- on the world stage.
Front and center.
They are now digging the grave for their lies even deeper than the world has just expressed are DEAD.

[Mher]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

Short of British news, the events in Turkey were pretty much ignored in news from around the world while the Centennial is still the most popular topic on Facebook and on the front page of every site

[Mher]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

German lawmakers defy Turkey, call massacre of Armenians 'genocide'

BERLIN - The German parliament overwhelmingly approved on Friday a resolution branding the mass killings of up to 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces a century ago as "genocide," risking a diplomatic rupture with Ankara.

The vote marks a significant change of stance for Germany, Turkey's biggest trade partner in the European Union and home to a large ethnic Turkish diaspora. Unlike France and some two dozen other countries, Berlin has long resisted using the word.

The term 'genocide' also has special resonance in Germany, which has worked hard to come to terms with its responsibility for the murder of six million xxxs in the Holocaust.

In a parliamentary session to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the start of the killings, all parliamentary groups in the Bundestag lower house backed the resolution in a vote likely to infuriate Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan.

Earlier this week Turkey said a similar resolution adopted by Austria's parliament would have "permanent negative effects" on its relations with Vienna.

"What happened in the middle of the First World War in the Ottoman Empire under the eyes of the world was a genocide," Bundestag president Norbert Lammert said at the start of German lawmakers' debate on the resolution.

Muslim Turkey denies that the massacres, at a time when Ottoman troops were battling Russian forces in the east of the empire, constituted genocide. It says there was no organized campaign to wipe out the Armenians, who are Christians, and no evidence of any such orders from the Ottoman authorities.

German President Joachim Gauck also used the word 'genocide' in a speech on Thursday.

Gauck, a former east German pastor with a penchant for defying convention, also suggested Germany itself might bear some of the blame because of its actions during World War One.

The Ottoman Empire, whose large ethnic Armenian population had flourished for centuries, was an ally of Kaiser Wilhelm's Germany during World War One when the massacres occurred.

Gauck's determination to use the controversial word prompted members of parliament to overcome long-held resistance from Chancellor Angela Merkel's government, which until Monday had steadfastly refused to use the term.

Political analysts have attributed Berlin's previous reluctance to use the term 'genocide' to its fear of upsetting Turkey and the 3.5 million people living in Germany who are Turkish nationals or of Turkish origin.

There are also concerns in Germany that massacres committed in 1904 and 1905 by German troops in what is now Namibia could also be designated genocide, leading to reparation demands.

Most Western scholars refer to the mass killings of the Ottoman Armenians as 'genocide.' Pope Francis also used the term this month, prompting Turkey to accuse him of inciting hatred.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/German-lawmakers-call-massacre-of-Armenians-genocide-on-100th-anniversary-defying-Turkey-399082