Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Mher
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    GEORGIAN LEADERS NOT TO ATTEND ARMENIAN GENOCIDE COMMEMORATION IN YEREVAN
    http://arka.am/en/news/politics/geor....2NJPo1tl.dpuf
    Of course not, Georgians are far too busy bending down for the Turks

    Leave a comment:


  • Mher
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    April 20, 2015
    Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić to be in Yerevan on April 24th

    President of Serbia Tomislav Nikolić will be in Yerevan on April 24 and will pay tribute to the innocent victims of the Armenian Genocide. This is what Chief of Staff of the President of the Republic of Armenia, coordinator of the events for the commemoration of the 100 thanniversary of the Armenian Genocide Vigen Sargsyan announced during an April 20 press conference, as “Armenpress” reports. “Currently, it is known that the leaders of four countries, including President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, President of France Francois Hollande, President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades and President of Serbia Tomislav Nikolić will be in Armenia to participate in the ceremonies for the commemoration of the 100 th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide,” Sargsyan said.

    Leave a comment:


  • Haykakan
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    There has been a lot going on here in the Detroit area recently pertaining to the genocide. A week ago I was at Eastern Michigan University where a couple of deniers paid by the Turkish government were holding a lecture on how too many events are dubbed genocide but they are not genocide. It was the usual bs like the term was not invented yet so it could not have been a genocide, it was suppressing a revolution, it was relocation not genocide... The speakers were a xxxish writer named Fein and a Turkish layer both of them are paid by the Turkish government. We had a lot of Armenians show up for this event and we had more Armenians then turks attending. The layer kept going on and on about due process and how there is no evidence of state involvement. I pointed out the hypocrisy of his statement by asking him where was due process for all the innocent victims that were murdered(the guy with the mic kept basically running away from me after that). Their arguments were so bad that without any prepping we made them look like fools. Their arguments are so weak that some of the turks in the audience were clapping while we maid our points. The intent to deny at all costs was so obvious on the face of the turkish speaker and when all of his arguments were debunked he simply kept reverting to the lack of evidence of government involvement. I think this event ended up being a good event instead of the devious denial it was supposed to focus on. There was much interaction between turks and Armenians. I saw some sympathy from much of the Turkish audience and even the xxxish speaker but not the cold hearted Turkish speaker. Had I known about this event ahead of time I would have prepped for it and made these speakers look even worst. At a certain point the whole denial was so artificial, redundent and sickening that I just left the room.
    Last weekend we had a wonderful event with Robert Fisk as one of the guest speakers. Our Detroit dancers did a great job at this event and Fisk was brilliant as usual. Armenian actor Eric Bogosian was also a guest speaker and discussed his book about the genocide.
    I hope we can have more useful events like these instead of what we have had in the past. Our community in Detroit seems to be staging better events as a newer generation of leaders is taking over. It is taxing to get to and attend many of these events(I live kind of far) so I try to be at the ones that look the most interesting and they have indeed been interesting.

    Leave a comment:


  • Haykakan
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    GEORGIAN LEADERS NOT TO ATTEND ARMENIAN GENOCIDE COMMEMORATION IN YEREVAN

    YEREVAN, April 20. / ARKA /. President of Georgia Giorgi Margvelashvili
    will not come to Armenia to commemorate the centenary of the Armenian
    Genocide in the Ottoman Empire, Russian Interfax news agency said.

    Interfax quoted Tengiz Pkhaladze, an aide to Margvelashvili, as saying
    that Georgia had informed Armenian authorities through diplomatic
    channels that president Margvelashvili will not be able to come to
    Armenia on April 23-24 because he will be welcoming Byelorussian
    president Alexander Lukashenko who will be visiting Georgia on the
    same days with an official visit.

    The Georgian government did not confirm earlier reports that Georgian
    prime minister Irakli Gharibashvili will be present in Armenia on
    April 23-24.

    Last week Georgian parliament declined a motion to consider the
    recognition of the Armenian Genocide presented by the ethnic Armenian
    MP Samvel Petrosyan.

    Independent experts say Georgia is reluctant to recognize the massacres
    of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire as genocide not to worsen relations
    with neighboring Turkey and Azerbaijan, its key economic partners.-0-

    President of Georgia Giorgi Margvelashvili will not come to Armenia to commemorate the centenary of the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire, Russian Interfax news agency said.

    Leave a comment:


  • Mher
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    Kremlin: Putin will visit Yerevan on April 24

    At the invitation of Armenia’s President Serzh Sargsyan, Russian President Vladimir Putin will pay a visit to Yerevan on Friday, April 24, informed the Kremlin press service.

    In the capital city of Armenia, Putin will participate in the centenary commemorations of the Armenian Genocide perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire.

    Within the framework of this visit, the Presidents of Armenia and Russia will meet, during which they are expected to discuss bilateral agenda issues, collaboration within integration unions, and current regional and international matters.

    As reported earlier, Vladimir Putin will meet with his French counterpart François Hollande, also in Yerevan on Friday.

    The Russian President will participate in the centenary commemorations of the Armenian Genocide perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire…

    Leave a comment:


  • Shant03
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    ^ Big left hook! Not much left now.. America should go for the KO!

    Leave a comment:


  • Mher
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    Germany, defying Turkey, to call 1915 Armenian massacre 'genocide'
    BERLIN | By Erik Kirschbaum

    (Reuters) - The German government backed away on Monday from a steadfast refusal to use the term "genocide" to describe the massacre of up to 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces 100 years ago after rebellious members of parliament forced its hand.

    In a major reversal in Turkey's top trading partner in the European Union and home to millions of Turks, Germany joins other nations and institutions including France, the European parliament and Pope Francis in using the term condemned by Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan.

    Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert said the government would support a resolution in parliament on Friday declaring it an example of genocide.

    Germany had long resisted using the term "genocide" even though France and other nations have. But Merkel's coalition government came under pressure from parliamentary deputies in their own ranks planning to use the word in a resolution.

    "The government backs the draft resolution ... in which the fate of the Armenians during World War One serves as an example of the history of mass murders, ethnic cleansings, expulsions and, yes, the genocides during the 20th century," Seibert said.

    Turkey denies that the killings, at a time when Ottoman troops were fighting Russian forces, constituted genocide. It says there was no organized campaign to wipe out Armenians and no evidence of any such orders from the Ottoman authorities.

    "We believe that there is no such black stain in our history," Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said when asked about the German resolution, saying similar votes in other parliaments had not changed Turkey's position.

    But in an apparent softening of tone, Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Ottoman Armenians would be commemorated at a religious ceremony in the Armenian Patriarchate in Istanbul on April 24, the 100th anniversary, in what he described as a "historic and humane" duty for Turkey.

    A source in his office said the ceremony would be attended by a government minister, an unprecedented move.

    "IMPORTANT ROLE"

    German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier had rejected using the word genocide in an ARD TV interview on Sunday, denying any suggestion that it was to avoid upsetting Turkey.

    "Responsibility can't be reduced to a single term," he said.

    Members of parliament from both Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats and their Social Democrat (SPD) coalition partners forced the change.

    Analysts said that the reluctance until now from Germany, a country that works hard to come to terms with the Holocaust it was responsible for, was due to fears of upsetting Turkey and the 3.5 million Germans of Turkish origin or Turkish nationals living in Germany.

    The German government also did not want to use the word due to concerns that the Herero massacres committed in 1904 and 1905 by German troops in what is now Namibia could also be called genocide, leading to reparation demands.

    "It's a striking contradiction by the German government that Germany is denying the genocide of Armenians," said Ayata Bilgin, a political scientist at Berlin's Free University.

    "Research has shown that external pressure on countries can have a considerable influence and Germany could play a very important role in this discussion on Turkey."

    Leave a comment:


  • Mher
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    European Parliament Adopts Bill Urging Turkey to Recognize Genocide

    BRUSSELS— During its plenary session on Wednesday the European Parliament adopted , a resolution on the centennial of the Armenian Genocide. The European Council was represented by Kalinina-Lukaševica and the European Commission Kristalina Georgieva, Vice-President of the European Commission and Commissioner for the Budget and Human Resources. With this resolution, the European Parliament officially marked the centennial of the Armenian Genocide.

    The resolution on the Centenary of the Armenian Genocide was supported by all political groups in the European Parliament, in which is stated: “whereas an increasing number of Member States and national parliaments recognize the Armenian Genocide perpetrated in the Ottoman Empire, whereas one of the main motivations of the European unification movement is the will to prevent the recurrence of wars and crimes against humanity in Europe; …whereas the importance of keeping the memories of the past is paramount, since there can be no reconciliation without the truth and remembrance; Pays tribute, on the eve of the Centenary, to the memory of the one-and-a-half million innocent Armenian victims who perished in the Ottoman Empire; joins the commemoration of the centenary of the Armenian Genocide in a spirit of European solidarity and justice; calls on the Commission and Council to join the commemoration”.

    The resolution reminds the Annual Report on Human Rights and Democracy in the World 2013 adopted on Mach 12, 2015, and the European Union’s policy on the matter, where the European Parliament calls on EU member states to recognize the Armenian Genocide.
    In today’s resolution, “the European Parliament calls on Turkey to come to terms with its past by recognizing the Armenian genocide and thus pave way for a genuine reconciliation”.

    The resolution also recalls the Parliament’s resolution of 18 June 1987 in which inter alia it has recognized that the tragic events that took place in 1915 – 1917 against the Armenians in the territory of the Ottoman Empire represent a genocide as defined in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide of 1948; condemns all occurrences of crimes against humanity and genocide and strongly deplores any attempts of their denial.

    The European Parliament resolution also asks for the establishment of an “International Remembrance Day for Genocides” and stresses that the timely prevention and effective punishment of genocide and crimes against humanity should be among the main priorities of the international community and the EU.

    An unprecedented number of members of the European Parliament took the stage and showed their solidarity to the Armenian nation in, and in support of the resolution, and the importance of calling a genocide a genocide. Pope Francis’ message of reconciliation and peace was also mentioned and included in the final version of the resolution.

    Kaspar Karampetian, President of the European Armenian Federation for Justice & Democracy (EAFJD) said: “Armenians all over the world welcome this resolution in this centennial year of the Armenian Genocide. The European Union is a union of values, dignity and human rights, and we expect all countries willing to join it, to have reconciled with their past, have friendly relations with their neighbors and look forward to a brighter and peaceful future without the ultimate of crimes, without Genocide. We expect Turkey come to terms with its past, and acknowledge the crime it has committed against the Armenian population 100 years ago, with all its consequences.”

    Karampetian also stressed the need for the EU Council and Commission to show more courage, acknowledge the crime with its proper name, and not hide behind EU member countries who have not yet recognized the Armenian Genocide.

    Karampetian also said, that Armenians support the democratic forces in Turkey, who challenge the Turkish state’s denial policy, push for recognition of the crime of Genocide against Armenians. He also stressed the well-coordinated and organized work of the Republic of Armenia permanent mission to the EU, Republic of Armenia National Assembly’s committee on foreign relations and the European Friends of Armenia, whose efforts succeeded in having this well-deserved resolution.

    Turkey’s Permanent Delegation to the EU immediately responded by tweeting: “In its latest resolution the EP has once again been successful in alienating Turkey and the Turkish people. It acted as prosecutor, judge & jury.”

    Leave a comment:


  • Eddo211
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    How stupid can Erdogay be.......its like we can change the April 24th day. It is a fixed date in history of the world you freaking moron. You think world leaders are as dirtbag dishonor no balls like you?
    ck*sker

    Leave a comment:


  • Artashes
    replied
    Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    The lying bastard.
    What an a.sshole.

    We should never forget who we are dealing with.

    .
    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Yes! We should indeed never forget the kind of soulless, lying, excrement we are dealing with!
    ----- we should *NEVER* forget who we are dealing with -----

    They committed genocide against us and others and have been lying about it ever since.
    They also boast about this genocide both during the heinous crimes and every year since then.
    There are those who think forming committees with the turc to resolve our differences is the correct path.
    To discuss anything with lying murderers is wrong. Dead wrong.
    They are going to continue this blatantly apparent fraud.
    We --HAVE-- to continue to tell the truth.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X