Gallipoli campaign and the Armenian Genocide

[Steph]

https://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=11407

[Steph]

https://www.ermeni.org/turkce/vkayutyun.php?tp=ea&lng=eng&nmb=155

[bell-the-cat]

Look at your map, if you can look at a map of the British Empire (usually the pink bits), consider the links between the Empire.

It's not a solid block as was the Roman or Alexander's empire is it?

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I cannot help thinking that in discussions of this kind, a great deal of misapprehension arises from the popular use of maps on a small scale. As with such maps, you are able to put a thumb on India and a finger on Russia, some persons at once think that the political situation is alarming and that India must be looked to. If the noble Lord would use a larger map – say one on the scale of the Ordnance map of England – he would find that the distance between Russia and British India is not measured by the finger and thumb, but by a rule.
Lord Salisbury, House of Commons speech, 11 June 1877.

[Steph]

I cannot help thinking that in discussions of this kind, a great deal of misapprehension arises from the popular use of maps on a small scale. As with such maps, you are able to put a thumb on India and a finger on Russia, some persons at once think that the political situation is alarming and that India must be looked to. If the noble Lord would use a larger map – say one on the scale of the Ordnance map of England – he would find that the distance between Russia and British India is not measured by the finger and thumb, but by a rule.
Lord Salisbury, House of Commons speech, 11 June 1877.

In December 1885 the general election left the Irish members in command, and the government was defeated. Later that year Gladstone was defeated on home rule. Salisbury said in a speech that some races, such as the Hottentots and the Hindus, were unfit for self-government.

What a nice fellow to use for a quotation.

[Steph]

The chapter on the empire is particularly illuminating as regards the place of the white man in the world. Bentley explains that Salisbury 'felt instinctively that races could be precisely ordered in a familiar nineteenth-century pattern of descent from superior to inferior: Teuton, Celt, Latin, brown (Christian), brown (Muslim), black, yellow…' (221). The superiority of the Whites could have several implications. He considered white slavery to be far more shocking than black slavery, and he told colleagues that beating the Boers might be very hard, as, this time, the enemy was of the Teutonic race. As for the Blacks, they needed 'a secure framework, a well-fenced garden,' the empire, 'in which they would grow in safety and receive the kindness that children deserved and required'

[Steph]

Perhaps worth looking at would be :

The Journal of British Studies, Vol.11 No 2, May 1972, pages 63-83,
"Lord Salisbury and the Ottoman Massacres" by Peter Marsh

[bell-the-cat]

In December 1885 the general election left the Irish members in command, and the government was defeated. Later that year Gladstone was defeated on home rule. Salisbury said in a speech that some races, such as the Hottentots and the Hindus, were unfit for self-government.

What a nice fellow to use for a quotation.

It is an appropriate quotation in the context of the thread, and also for this forum. Though I don't have access to the information that would have revealed the context of the speech, the date it was made and its tone suggests that it was said in opposition to those who wished Britain to ally itself with Turkey in that country's war with Russia.