Operation Ring 1991- Continuing the Armenian Genocide

[Joseph]

http://mrav.net/2007/operation-ring-shahumyan-getashen-1991/

by Svetana Paskaleva, a Bulgarian photojournalist.

[Yegoyan]

I don't think it is a Genocide, you need to use that term carefully. Now everyone is screaming 'Genocide' and they want it for there people. But the original genocides were of the Armenians, Jews and somewhat Assyrians.

[Gavur]

I don't think it is a Genocide, you need to use that term carefully. Now everyone is screaming 'Genocide' and they want it for there people. But the original genocides were of the Armenians, Jews and somewhat Assyrians.

And Pontus Greeks and Christian Arabs!
Turks were and are bad hombres and backstabbers.

[bell-the-cat]

If you consider that it is a continuation of events that began in 1915, then it is a continuation of the genocide. But whether it is, is debatable, of course. What's certain is that the events that began in 1915 created the historical conditions that are the reasons behind all the conflict over Nagorno Karabagh.

What would be interesting is to know is when Azerbaijan began following (and sometimes exceeding) the Turkish line regarding the denial of the Armenian genocide. Were they doing it during the Soviet period or did it only start in the 1990s and was it after their defeat in NK?

[Yegoyan]

And Pontus Greeks and Christian Arabs!
Turks were and are bad hombres and backstabbers.

Do you mean some Arabs were killed in the Armenian Genocide? because they don't have a separate label apero. Yeah the Pontic Greek Genocide also.

[Yegoyan]

If you consider that it is a continuation of events that began in 1915, then it is a continuation of the genocide. But whether it is, is debatable, of course. What's certain is that the events that began in 1915 created the historical conditions that are the reasons behind all the conflict over Nagorno Karabagh.

What would be interesting is to know is when Azerbaijan began following (and sometimes exceeding) the Turkish line regarding the denial of the Armenian genocide. Were they doing it during the Soviet period or did it only start in the 1990s and was it after their defeat in NK?

As far as I know after the 1990s they did alot of propaganda work. There basically the same thing as the Turks, only in around 1918 they came to life. When Turkey created a random state, that claimed Armenian historical land. They do have Caucasian ancestry though, the Azeris since when they came to Karabakh areas they mixed with Caucasian Albanians, as in rape, plunder and desecrate the ancient state.

The Khojaly Massacre also started alot of controversy where Azeris claimed it was a 'genocide' and that the Armenian one was a lie. Basically jumping around with false accusations and inaccurate info. Also what is most interesting is when Turks say 'Armenians occupy Karabakh' and all that nonsense that we do to Azeris, and when they are seen doing the same thing in Cyprus. Occupying the northern part.

[Helen]

Do you mean some Arabs were killed in the Armenian Genocide? because they don't have a separate label apero. Yeah the Pontic Greek Genocide also.

Enver Pasha

One of the triumpharate rulers publicly declared on 19 May 1916...

"The Ottoman Empire should be cleaned up of the Armenians and the Lebanese. We have destroyed the former by the sword, we shall destroy the latter through starvation."

[Yegoyan]

Yeah I guess he said Lebanese too. But there is little information about the massacres on Lebanese by Turks.

[Steph]

If you consider that it is a continuation of events that began in 1915, then it is a continuation of the genocide. But whether it is, is debatable, of course. What's certain is that the events that began in 1915 created the historical conditions that are the reasons behind all the conflict over Nagorno Karabagh.

What would be interesting is to know is when Azerbaijan began following (and sometimes exceeding) the Turkish line regarding the denial of the Armenian genocide. Were they doing it during the Soviet period or did it only start in the 1990s and was it after their defeat in NK?

I'd imagine that the azeris were basically shackled by the Soviet system which kept them in their kennels, much as Tito managed, quite forcefully, to keep the brotherly love going in Yugoslavia.

[bell-the-cat]

I'd imagine that the azeris were basically shackled by the Soviet system which kept them in their kennels, much as Tito managed, quite forcefully, to keep the brotherly love going in Yugoslavia.

I remember reading that the various end-of-ww1 and post-ww1 conflicts between Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia were collectively known as the "wars between neighbouring peoples" in Soviet literature, and they were all blamed on imperialist plotting and on outdated nationalism that Soviet-man had done away with.
Though I may be corrected, I've a feeling that you are wrong in suggesting there was any substantial continued ethnic animosity between Armenians and Azeris from the post-ww2 period onwards. It was all, just like in Yugoslavia, the result of politicians inventing and encouraging the mob and whipping things up for their own interests and other countries making use of the situation for their own interests. A lot of people are pathetic creatures really, most never have an original thought in their entire lives and are incapable of seing when they are being used by others from their birth to their death.