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  • #11
    A great deal of performed jazz is technically covers.

    And No Doubt is horrible.

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    • #12
      i didn't say when they don't write their own words
      (although that's pretty pathetic when it comes to famous singers who are famous cuz they're HOT and they have a "nice" voice... I could do that too)
      but anyway
      I was saying when people sing AND change the style of songs that have been sung before.
      like No doubt's it's my life
      i feel like placing the entire band on an electrical chair when I hear that song.
      drop dead terrible...
      famous singers who are famous cuz they're hot and the have a "nice" voice, are not singers, they are entertainers.

      Example: Britney Spears. Everyone (mostly girls) complain about how she has no talent what-so-ever.

      She can entertain.

      She can dance, and she has extremeeeee sex appeal.

      no, she is not a singer, she does not have a singing voice, but she can entertain.


      She's HOT, and she can work an audience.

      I watch her music videos, and performances, and she nails all of em, everytime.

      and no everyone can't do that.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by jahannam covers are pointless.
        they're like "hey check me out , I just traced this "God and Adam" painting off of MichelAngelo's , but I used different colors instead."

        get over it!
        it's a work of art...
        and by manipulating it YOUR way, you're just admitting you lack creativity.
        You have to define what you mean by creativity though. The word is "vague" enough that one may put in several definitions, and my definition disagree with yours

        concerning the post:
        Massive Attack: Light my fire (The doors)

        PS: sorry, sometime my posts are hardly understandable... I'm trying to improve my english

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        • #14
          Originally posted by jahannam covers are pointless.
          they're like "hey check me out , I just traced this "God and Adam" painting off of MichelAngelo's , but I used different colors instead."

          get over it!
          it's a work of art...
          and by manipulating it YOUR way, you're just admitting you lack creativity.
          Hey ! I have a good novel for you concerning this:
          Nicolas Gogol - "The mysterious portrait"

          Here on Amazon

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          • #15
            Originally posted by felizitation You have to define what you mean by creativity though. The word is "vague" enough that one may put in several definitions, and my definition disagree with yours

            concerning the post:
            Massive Attack: Light my fire (The doors)

            PS: sorry, sometime my posts are hardly understandable... I'm trying to improve my english
            I didn't know creativity has numerous meanings.

            having the willingness and bravery of creating something from scratch is what I meant.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by jahannam I didn't know creativity has numerous meanings.

              having the willingness and bravery of creating something from scratch is what I meant.
              Creativity is a notion, and thus may lead to several definitions.
              I give you a counter example:
              We often say that for painters, the creativity is double.
              The one is the work of art itself as being the materialization/realization of the painter's idea through his emotions.
              The second is the emotion it breeds/create for the spectator.

              I share this point of view, also for music . When I hear a music, I hear it in a certain way. From all these mixed feelings, if a create something, I would consider it as original.

              Creating from scratch is also creation, that's why I wanted you to define what you meant by creativity.

              Then you may seize the work. Creating from scratch is harder than creating from something, and you would say that the amount of work of the former may lead to call it creation (and the latter not).
              Establishing such metrics to quantify the notion of creativity is dangerous. You simply can't quantify creativity and originality.

              By the way, you never start something from scratch, there is at least the experience.

              Think you'll apreciate the Gogol's novel "the mysterious portrait".

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              • #17
                I don't consider "creating from something" creating.
                that's like saying along with Mr. Bell's creativity (cuz he came up with the CONCEPT of the phone), Samsung and panasonic are also creative cuz they designed better looking phones...
                ummm no

                experience has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
                you might argue the fact that experience is one of the things in the process of creating...
                but that's off topic
                as i said
                creating from something is not creating.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by jahannam I don't consider "creating from something" creating.
                  that's like saying along with Mr. Bell's creativity (cuz he came up with the CONCEPT of the phone), Samsung and panasonic are also creative cuz they designed better looking phones...
                  ummm no

                  experience has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
                  you might argue the fact that experience is one of the things in the process of creating...
                  but that's off topic
                  as i said
                  creating from something is not creating.
                  How the hell do you create from nothing, J? You're not making any sense.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by jahannam i didn't say when they don't write their own words
                    (although that's pretty pathetic when it comes to famous singers who are famous cuz they're HOT and they have a "nice" voice... I could do that too)
                    but anyway
                    I was saying when people sing AND change the style of songs that have been sung before.
                    like No doubt's it's my life
                    i feel like placing the entire band on an electrical chair when I hear that song.
                    drop dead terrible...

                    Your rhetoric make me think of a bulldozer in a flowered meadow

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by loseyourname How the hell do you create from nothing, J? You're not making any sense.
                      what's creating then, "L" ???
                      lol
                      don't people say GOD CREATED LIFE? isn't that the ultimate usage of the word?
                      how am I not making sense?
                      enlighten me please...

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