Tarkan...

[hyebruin]

he tries to cover his gayness behind his gay music...him and joseph kirkorian which i still think someone should hook them up together and ship them to gitmo

krikorian has that 'look of sex' on his face! it's sooo gross *throws up* he's NOT sexy nor seductive! he's more lascivious than anything else! yukkkkk

[ardenik]

I dont know about Tarkan and his Kiss Kiss...but İbrahim Tatlıses is real good, and the fact that they are turkish does not really bother me, because what happened back then has nothing to do with the turks today...true they still claim nothing ever happened, but thats their problem not ours....as long as we know it happened and the greatest mack of all does, god than everything is cool.....sooo ya..lol

disliking turkish music simply because it's turkish is one of the dumbest things somebody can do... Ibrahim Tatlises puts ANY armenian pop singer to shame these days, without even breaking a sweat. despite their ruthless & careless past, turks take their music VERY seriously & there isnt a single armenian band on the planet that even comes remotely close to any of the world's top turkish musicians..... sad but true.

its sad because armenian music is fundamentally much more beautiful (in my opinion) than turkish music is. i have studied many many different styles of music of many different cultures & none come close to the emotional & dynamic range that armenian music covers. the saddest songs ive ever heard are armenian. the happiest also & when u listen to some of the grotesque lyrics in a lot of heghapokhagan songs, so are the angriest.

I will prove to you the definition of music, is a greek.

Most Armenian music is originally Turkish, Greek or Arabic. Most Turkish music is originally Arabic or Greek. So most songs are Arabic or Greek.

There you have it, music / greek...music is greek!

jilbagh, that formula made no sense whatsoever... & thats besides the fact that even if it did, it's still false.

most armenian music is not originally turkish, greek or arabic.. at least not traditionally... traditional armenian, greek, arabic & persian music have coexisted since way too far back to be able to distinguish which did what first, where each instrument originated or where certain musical elements such as scales, rhythms, tuning systems & melodic vocabulary were created. turkish music (& all turkish culture in general) is like the bastard offspring of a mix of all these cultures. they've come a long way in a few hundred years, because now, a lot of armenian pop songs are taken from greek, arabic & turkish songs, & in that sense, jilbagh, u are correct. this is unfortunate, because armenian music is actually fundamentally a lot more rich than any of these other styles, as far as im concerned.

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speaking of which, i just discovered a freakin AWESOME band. they're called "LAÇO TAYFA", they are a Turkish-Fusion band... the instrumentation is really interesting: clarinet, baglama (saz), kanun, violin, drumset, percussion, electric bass & keyboards. there are so many elements in this music: from traditional turkish tunes, 'mawal's & hicaz, to jazz, fusion, funk, & even some Latin influence!! im really tripping out HARD on this band lately, u guys should check it out.

[ardenik]

oh yea, by the way.....

Tarkan actually IS gay & that's why he didnt do his army duty & thats why he got his butt kicked out of turkey for a while (i dont know if he was ever able to go back)

i cant really tell if he's a decent singer or not because ive never heard his natural voice, unaltered by all those studio miracle-machines, compressors, limiters & automatic pitch-correctors.... but considering he cant do without these gadgets, i think i can safely say he's a pretty cr@ppy singer & his voice is the only thing thats actually worse than his music.

tarkan is a very bad example of turkish music. listen to ibrahim tatlises & name me 3 armenian singers who, combined, might come close to making one Ibo.

[jilbagh]

jilbagh, that formula made no sense whatsoever... & thats besides the fact that even if it did, it's still false.

Ever seen my Big Fat Greek Wedding?...but i'm talking about the popular music. It's TRUE The popular and the (scares me to say this word) rabiz are either Turkish, Greek sometimes Russian (even though they should really slow down--ok laugh, joke- hi!)

a lot of armenian pop songs are taken from greek, arabic & turkish songs, & in that sense, jilbagh, u are correct.

HA! I knew it!!! hehehe

this is unfortunate, because armenian music is actually fundamentally a lot more rich than any of these other styles, as far as im concerned.

Thats why I like the traditional songs that sound more modern, but still have the same instruments....like Aravod.

[jilbagh]

oh yea, by the way.....

Tarkan actually IS gay & that's why he didnt do his army duty & thats why he got his butt kicked out of turkey for a while (i dont know if he was ever able to go back)

SEEEEEE I Told y'all!!! He's gonna sing "It's Rainin' Men'' transelated into Turkish as his next single

[hyebruin]

SEEEEEE I Told y'all!!! He's gonna sing "It's Rainin' Men'' transelated into Turkish as his next single

[MeesterFly]

oh yea, by the way.....

Tarkan actually IS gay & that's why he didnt do his army duty & thats why he got his butt kicked out of turkey for a while (i dont know if he was ever able to go back)

i cant really tell if he's a decent singer or not because ive never heard his natural voice, unaltered by all those studio miracle-machines, compressors, limiters & automatic pitch-correctors.... but considering he cant do without these gadgets, i think i can safely say he's a pretty cr@ppy singer & his voice is the only thing thats actually worse than his music.

tarkan is a very bad example of turkish music. listen to ibrahim tatlises & name me 3 armenian singers who, combined, might come close to making one Ibo.

he is bisexual (he confirmed this after someone broke into his home and stole compromising photos of him naked with another man on a beach) he didnt do the full service with the army, but he did pay for it to be cutt short. they wouldnt allow him to step foot in turkey any more(tour) unless he did his service to turkey. They offer a deal to people : either pay up or serve. So he paid and was able to do a shorter term then most men who cannot afford to pay that fee. So instead he did a few months vs. a few years.

[ardenik]

he is bisexual (he confirmed this after someone broke into his home and stole compromising photos of him naked with another man on a beach) he didnt do the full service with the army, but he did pay for it to be cutt short. they wouldnt allow him to step foot in turkey any more(tour) unless he did his service to turkey. They offer a deal to people : either pay up or serve. So he paid and was able to do a shorter term then most men who cannot afford to pay that fee. So instead he did a few months vs. a few years.

that sounds about right. thank you.

[HyeJinx1984]

For some reason this discussion reminded me of a CD i saw in my friend Manuk's car once... "Very Best of Turkish pop mix 2001" ... I'm serious.

[ardenik]

For some reason this discussion reminded me of a CD i saw in my friend Manuk's car once... "Very Best of Turkish pop mix 2001" ... I'm serious.

why wouldnt u be serious?