Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Beautiful South Ossetia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZuC0VVQlqM&feature=related

The vast majority of Caucasus is behind Ossetians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRxnXoJISF8&feature=related

[Supreme]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Come on Russia, what are you waiting for! BOMB THE GEORGIAN SCUM!

[Supreme]

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http://streaming.visionip.tv/Russia_Today

Here you guys watch Russia Today live and in English...their covering the conflict very well

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Why aren't the Armenians in Javakh taking there chances and declaring independence. When the abkhaz open a second front and we can open a third and the Russians a fourth front.

[Supreme]

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Why aren't the Armenians in Javakh taking there chances and declaring independence. When the abkhaz open a second front and we can open a third and the Russians a fourth front.

Well it was obvious the attack on the Armenian's in Javakh a few weeks was a pre-text to this war and it was also done in order to stop any new separatists from forming.

I agree though. If Georgia attacks Abkhazia, Armenians should definitely stand up in Javakh.

[HayotzAmrotz]

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I agree though. If Georgia attacks Abkhazia, Armenians should definitely stand up in Javakh.

Glad you mentioned Abkhazia because this attack on South Ossetia (SO) is all about Abkhazia. That's right, Abkhazia. Georgians are gauging Russia's response in SO and so far everything goes by Georgia's plan, which is: Attack and occupy SO then scream at Abkhazians "Look how your Russian friends let the Ossetians down, now come to the table and let's talk or else!"

But what these fukhead Georgians don't realize is that Abkhazia is NOT South Ossetia. Abkhazia, unlike SO, is rich and armed to the teeth. If Georgia attacks them it will be the end of Georgia. Firstly, the occupied South Ossetia will rise and start to harass Georgian occupational forces - the long nights of hit and runs would begin and continue until Georgians leave. Secondly, one week after an attack on Abkhazia, Russia will step in and declare to the world (and not just to those fukhead Georgians) that enough is enough, from now on Russia will defend its citizens anywhere in the world starting right now in Abkhazia (95% of its population are Russian citizens). This will not mean that Russian MiG's will bomb Tbilisi, what it will mean is that Russia will get its Special Forces to organize and coordinate an extreme assault on Georgia from inside Abkhazia, when I say "extreme" I mean fast, very fuking FAST. Faster then America can say "UN Security Council". Literally in a day or two Georgians will be so fuked that they will cross en masse into Turkey and Azerbaijan for help.

As for our beloved Javakhq I'd say the people of Javakhq should clame freedom as soon as the opportunity comes and before it is gone.

[Illuminator]

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Georgians getting arses kicked.

Российские войска входят в Цхинвали

Колонна российской бронетехники входит в Цхинвали, передает ИТАР-ТАСС со ссылкой на власти Южной Осетии. Осетинские ополченцы уничтожают грузинскую бронетехнику в центре города. Как сообщил один из ополченцев, отрядам югоосетинской обороны удается уничтожать грузинскую бронетехнику и вытеснять грузинские формирования с севера на юг города. Госкомитет по информации и печати Южной Осетии сообщил, что грузинская авиация наносит удар по Цхинвали.

[Supreme]

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Glad you mentioned Abkhazia because this attack on South Ossetia (SO) is all about Abkhazia. That's right, Abkhazia. Georgians are gauging Russia's response in SO and so far everything goes by Georgia's plan, which is: Attack and occupy SO then scream at Abkhazians "Look how your Russian friends let the Ossetians down, now come to the table and let's talk or else!"

But what these fukhead Georgians don't realize is that Abkhazia is NOT South Ossetia. Abkhazia, unlike SO, is rich and armed to the teeth. If Georgia attacks them it will be the end of Georgia. Firstly, the occupied South Ossetia will rise and start to harass Georgian occupational forces - the long nights of hit and runs would begin and continue until Georgians leave. Secondly, one week after an attack on Abkhazia, Russia will step in and declare to the world (and not just to those fukhead Georgians) that enough is enough, from now on Russia will defend its citizens anywhere in the world starting right now in Abkhazia (95% of its population are Russian citizens). This will not mean that Russian MiG's will bomb Tbilisi, what it will mean is that Russia will get its Special Forces to organize and coordinate an extreme assault on Georgia from inside Abkhazia, when I say "extreme" I mean fast, very fuking FAST. Faster then America can say "UN Security Council". Literally in a day or two Georgians will be so fuked that they will cross en masse into Turkey and Azerbaijan for help.

I agree. Abkhazia is no SO. Its a larger de facto state thats heavily armed and suppiled by the Russians compared to SO's 5000 active troops.

As for our beloved Javakhq I'd say the people of Javakhq should clame freedom as soon as the opportunity comes and before it is gone.

Only problem is the Javakh Armenian is probably not well armed or even armed at all.

But one good thing has came out of this. It gave Russia a good wake up call. Hopefully Russia will retaliate and protect its allies. This can be good for allies of Russia like Armenia.

[yerazhishda]

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UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE
EARLIER STORY FOUND HERE:

http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx?articlepath=APNews\Top-Headlines\20080808\Georgia-South-Ossetia.xml&cat=topheadlines&subcat=&pageid=1

Georgia says it shot down 2 Russian aircraft
Friday, August 08, 2008 12:29:44 PM


Georgia's Interior Ministry spokesman says that Georgian forces have shot down two Russian combat planes.

Shota Utiashvili says the planes were downed while they were raiding Georgian territory, but wouldn't give their type or any further details.

Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgian report about one Russian plane downed. It had no immediate comment on the latest claim.

Georgia launched a massive attack Friday to regain control of South Ossetia, using heavy artillery, aircraft and armor. Russia's television reported that a convoy of Russian tanks rolled into South Ossetia.

[yerazhishda]

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Russian tanks enter South Ossetia (AKA Georgia gets gang-raped by Russia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia)
source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7548715.stm


Russian tanks head towards South Ossetia

Russian tanks are moving towards the capital of Georgia's separatist region of South Ossetia, which has been under heavy bombardment from Georgian forces.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakasvili said 150 Russian tanks and other vehicles had entered South Ossetia.

Georgia is reported to have said any involvement of Russian forces in the conflict will result in a state of war between the two countries.

Russia says it is sending reinforcements to support peacekeepers.

Reports from Georgia claim Russian jets have attacked an airport near Tbilisi.

Nato, the US and the EU have all called for an immediate end to hostilities.

At least 15 civilians are reported dead [I feel bad that the poor citizens are caught up in this political chess-game, but their gov't thought it could intimidate Moscow...], as well as several Russian peacekeepers based in Tskhinvali.

Georgia's president told CNN: "Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory."

Mr Saakashvili, who has called on reservists to sign up for duty, said: "This is a clear intrusion on another country's territory."

"We have Russian tanks on our territory, jets on our territory in broad daylight," Reuters new agency quoted him as saying.

"I must also tell you that Georgian forces have downed two Russian jet fighters over Georgia's territory."

Russia rejected claims its fighters had attacked Georgian targets and that any had been shot down.

The Russian defence ministry told Interfax news agency that reinforcements for Russian peacekeepers had been sent to South Ossetia "to help end bloodshed".

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has promised to defend Russian citizens in South Ossetia.

"I must protect the life and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are," Interfax quoted him as saying. "We will not allow their deaths to go unpunished. Those responsible will receive a deserved punishment."

Residents of Tskhinvali were reported to have been sheltering in basements as massive explosions rocked the city. Georgian jets also targeted separatist positions. Both sides blamed each other for breaking an earlier ceasefire agreed on Thursday.

Georgian Foreign Minister Ekaterine Tkeshelashvili told the BBC the present situation was calm as Georgian troops were observing a unilateral ceasefire which started at 1100GMT.

She said they wanted to ensure that any civilians who wanted to leave the conflict zone could do so safely.

Russian troops

An amnesty has also been extended to any separatist fighters willing to lay down their arms, she said. SOUTH OSSETIA TIMELINE
1991-92 S Ossetia fights war to break away from newly independent Georgia; Russia enforces truce
2004 Mikhail Saakashvili elected Georgian president, promising to recover lost territories
2006 S Ossetians vote for independence in unofficial referendum
April 2008 Russia steps up ties with Abkhazia and South Ossetia
July 2008 Russia admits flying jets over S Ossetia; Russia and Georgia accuse each other of military build-up
7 August 2008 After escalating Georgian-Ossetian clashes, sides agree to ceasefire
8 August 2008 Heavy fighting erupts overnight, Georgian forces close on Tskhinvali

On reports of Russian forces moving into South Ossetia, she said the Russian Federation's efforts to get involved militarily had to be stopped.

International Red Cross spokeswoman Anna Nelson said they had received reports that hospitals in Tskhinvali were having trouble coping with the influx of casualties and ambulances were having trouble reaching the injured.

Irina Gagloyeva, a South Ossetian official in Tskhinvali, described the scene in the besieged city overnight after the Georgian military action started.

"Virtually all the people of the city are in shelters, myself included. It started at midnight, and has barely stopped for a minute," she told the BBC. "Can you hear? That's rockets. All my windows have blown out. Thirty-five thousand residents of our capital have become the hostages of Georgian fascism."

A spokesman for the Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia told Interfax news agency that Georgian shells directly hit barracks in Tskhinvali, killing several peacekeepers.

Georgian Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze said Georgia had simply run out of patience with attacks by separatist militias in recent days and had had to move in to restore peace in South Ossetia.

"As soon as a durable peace takes hold we need to move forward with dialogue and peaceful negotiations," he told reporters.

Russian passports [These passports seem to come up again and again!]

Georgia accuses Russia of arming the separatists who have been trying to break away since the civil war in the 1990s. Moscow denies the claim.

Russia called an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to respond to the crisis, but members failed to agree on a Russian statement calling on both sides to renounce the use of force.

The BBC's James Rodgers in Moscow says Russia has always said it supports the territorial integrity of Georgia but also that it would defend its citizens. Many South Ossetians hold Russian passports.

Hundreds of fighters from Russia and Georgia's other breakaway region of Abkhazia are reportedly heading to aid the separatist troops.

China, where the Olympic Games opens on Friday, called for worldwide truce during the sporting event.

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"I must protect the life and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are. We will not allow their deaths to go unpunished."

Dmitry Medvedev
Russian President