turks declare "war" with israel .. about time

[Palavra]

Re: turks declare "war" with israel .. about time

In any scenario, Turkey will always come up with an excuse for herself.
The republic of Turkey has been making excuses since it became a republic.
This is nothing new and it it is far from interesting.

Yup but this time Turkey will be right If AG accepted. anyway, It is your problem to force AG or not.

By the way, zionist state? Turkey? so you think armenians were only minority who suffered.

[crusader1492]

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Yup but this time Turkey will be right If AG accepted. anyway, It is your problem to force AG or not.

By the way, zionist state? Turkey? so you think armenians were only minority who suffered.

Right about what? That the unholy Jew sanctioned it so therefore, the Armenian Genocide lie.

...I guess this is logical deduction in the Turkish mind.

[Palavra]

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No recognision of AG is political(Infact, Turkey is always right about this issue maybe except canada.)

It is not important If xxxs accept it or not. Important thing is why do they accept it. Anyway, I still do not think, AG will be recognized by USA.

[crusader1492]

Re: turks declare "war" with israel .. about time

No recognision of AG is political(Infact, Turkey is always right about this issue maybe except canada.)

It is not important If xxxs accept it or not. Important thing is why do they accept it. Anyway, I still do not think, AG will be recognized by USA.

I'm sure you're convince of that. Good for you!

...in recent developments

After Davos Clash, Obama's Envoy Skirts Turkey on Regional Tour BY ALLEN YEKIKAN

Published: Friday January 30, 2009



ANKARA (Combined Sources)--President Barack Obama's Special Envoy to the Middle East has postponed a planned visit to Turkey, citing 'severe technical reasons' for bypassing the key NATO country along his regional tour.

"The way the schedule was very tight, we have tried very hard to make a trip to Turkey fit in, and it just could not for technical reasons," US Embassy Spokesperson Kathryn Schalow told the Anatolian News Agency Friday.

As part of his Middle East tour, Mitchell visited several countries including Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia and West Bank.

The news comes a day after Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan verbally sparred with Israeli President Shimon Peres at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, blasting his Israeli counterpart with a lengthy condemnation of Israel's human rights violations in the Gaza Strip. It also follows months of diplomatic posturing vis-a-vis the United States as Turkish officials have consistently been trying to pressure the new US administration on the Armenian issue, warning that its recognition of the Armenian Genocide will be met with negative consequences by an angered Turkey.

Turkey has been posturing for a more influential role in the geopolitics of the Middle East and it's near abroad, working to mediate in Gaza, while also trying to establish a foothold in the Caucasus and Central Asia.

To advance its image among the Arab Middle East, Turkey has harshly criticized Israel over its Gaza operation which left more than 1,300 people killed. Regular criticisms by Turkey's Prime Minister have strained relations between Turkey and Israel, two countries who have close diplomatic and military ties, including a history of working together to lobby the US government not to recognize the Genocide.

The influential American xxxish Committee slammed Erdogan on Friday for his remarks, saying his behavior was "a public disgrace that may well encourage further outrages against Israel and xxxs."

Earlier, on January 23, five major xxxish organizations called on the Turkish prime minister to "urgently address" the wave of anti-Semitism in his country, warning that Turkey's recent condemnation of Israel will make it difficult to continue supporting Turkey's attempts to prevent US recognition of the Armenian Genocide in the US congress.

While some analysts predict that Turkey may have torpedoed its strategic alliance with Israel and burned its bridges with its allies in the xxxish lobby, others see Turkey's geopolitical position as having actually benefited from its harsh criticism of Israel.

“Turkey's international profile has risen as a result of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's criticism of Israel in the wake of the conflict in Gaza,” said Stratfor a Texas based Private Intelligence agency. “Erdogan and the ruling Justice and Development Party are making use of the Gaza crisis to further their goals of reasserting Turkey's leadership of the Arab Middle East, and of the wider Muslim world.”

According to Stratfor, Erdogan is “gaining tremendous respect and appreciation” in the Arab world for his recent condemnations of Israel, especially “at a time when the Arab masses perceive their leaders as either actively supporting Israel or at least doing nothing to stop it.”

Erdogan seems to have benefited domestically as well, arriving in Turkey Friday to a hero's welcome from thousands of Turks gathered at Istanbul's Atatruk Airport. Live television footage showed crowds waving Palestinian and Turkish flags at the airport while chanting slogans supporting the prime minister. Banners proclaimed Mr. Erdogan the “delegate of the oppressed” and said: “Let the world see a proper prime minister.” The passions reflected widespread anger about the Gaza war in Turkey, a secular nation whose population is mostly Muslim.

“I only know that I'm responsible for protecting the honor of the Turkish Republic, the Turkish nation from A to Z,” Mr. Erdogan said as he returned to Istanbul in the early hours of Friday. “I am not a leader of a tribe. I am the prime minister of the Republic of Turkey. I do whatever I need to, so I did it, and will continue to do so. This is my character. This is my identity.”

Meanwhile, Israel's President was quick to nip any speculation Friday that Turkish-Israeli relations had tanked, saying that Turkey is an ally and that the public argument with Erdogan at the World Economic Forum will neither affect the relationship between Israel and Turkey nor between Peres and Erdogan, The Associated Press reported.

Turkey occupies some of the most valuable real estate on the planet, according to Stratfor. “It sits astride the land routes connecting Europe, the former Soviet Union and the Middle East--not to mention the straits connecting the Black Sea and the Mediterranean,” a January 30 report by the intelligence agency said. “It is the only country in the world that is positioned to project influence readily into all of these regions.”

“Any time in human history that the Anatolian Peninsula has not been a leading force in geopolitics has been an aberration,” it said. “And although the direction of its movement remains up for debate, Turkey--after more than 90 years of quiescence--is moving again.”





Friday, January 30, 2009

[Azad]

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I think Erdogan should learn to become a president instead of following his emotions..

Erdogan is the prime minister. If he has to learn to behave what you have to say for .....
"As the country's prime minister was lambasting Israel repeatedly, Turkey's j ewish community was experiencing "the worst situation in memory," said someone close to the community.

The community, estimated to number some 26,000, has seen a spate of anti-Semitic incidents in the wake of Israel's operation against Hamas.

At anti-Israel demonstrations throughout the country, demonstrators were seen carrying blatantly anti-Semitic signs. At a demonstration in the industrial city of Eskisehir, for example, signs read, "Dogs allowed, but no j ews or Armenians."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050199769&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

"recent event in which members of the Federation of Osman Gazi Cultural Associations posed with placards on which they had written "No j ews or Armenians allowed here" and "Dogs allowed," apparently in response to the ongoing Israeli military offensive in Gaza."

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=164329&bolum=102

[Pazooki]

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Pardon me?

Yes... it's true Palavra. Turkey is not untouchable.

[Haykakan]

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Erdogan urges world to recognize Hamas

PRESS TV
Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:24:15 GMT


Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for recognition
of Hamas which won a landslide victory in Palestinian elections.

In an interview with The Washington Post published Saturday, Recep
Tayyip Erdogan said isolating Hamas is the reason for the ongoing
tensions in the region.

He criticized world leaders for failing to respect the political will
of the Palestinian people who voted for the Palestinian resistance
movement.

Erdogan said Hamas would have been in a different situation if the
world had given it a chance in politics after winning elections.

The Turkish prime minister said Hamas would not be able to change the
situation as long as Palestine was "an open air prison".

Hamas won the 2006 Parliamentary elections with 74 of the 132 available
seats. The rival ruling Fatah faction got only 45 seats.

Western-backed Acting Palestinian Authority Chief Mahmoud Abbas of
Fatah however fired Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniya's unity
government in June 2007.

Erdogan's remarks came after his recent public spat with Israel's
President Shimon Peres, over the Israeli massacre in the Gaza Strip, in
the world economic forum meeting on Thursday.

On Thursday, Erdogan stormed out of the world economic forum in Davos,
Switzerland after a heated debate with Shimon Peres on Gaza.

Erdogan told Peres in the Forum, "Mr. Peres, you are a senior citizen
and you speak in a loud voice. I feel that your raised voice is due to
the guilt you feel.

"But be sure that my voice will not be raised as yours,"

"When it comes to killing, you know very well how to kill."

"I know very well how you hit and killed children on beaches."

Erdogan walked off in front of UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and
other panel members complaining that his comments on the conflict were
cut short by the Washington Post's moderator David Ignatius.

[ara87]

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This is a lose/lose situation.

If the world is behind Israel=ugh. If the world gets behind Hamas=ugh.

[merhayrenik]

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Nothing will change, this is another political gimmick to win the elections.

[Federate]

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Armenia’s Israeli friends re-elected to Knesset

by Emil Sanamyan


Published: Thursday February 19, 2009

Co-chair of the Israel-Armenia parliamentary friendship group, Ze’ev Elkin, campaigning with Benjamin Netanyahu in Dec. 2008. netanyahu.org

Washington, - Following general elections on February 10, the Israeli political scene remains deadlocked, with no one party or bloc enjoying a majority in the nation's Knesset.

Media reports suggest that former prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu of the right-of-center Likud party is most likely to lead the next government, which might also include his main rival, outgoing foreign minister Tsipi Livni of the centrist Kadima party. On February 19 Mr. Netanyahu won the support of two right-wing parties that won the third and fifth largest shares of seats in the parliament.

Among those re-elected is co-chair of the Israel-Armenia parliamentary friendship group, Ze'ev Elkin, now with Likud. Mr. Elkin was elected to the Knesset in 2006 on the Kadima list, but left the party over its support for a Palestinian state. Last year, Mr. Elkin sought to raise the long-taboo subject of the Armenian Genocide in the Knesset. (See an interview with him in the April 12, 2008, issue of the Armenian Reporter.)

Also re-elected was Chaim Oron, veteran politician and leader of a small leftist Meretz party, who has long championed Armenian Genocide affirmation efforts.

Among those not re-elected was Yosef Shagal, a lobbyist for Azerbaijan who, following several public embarrassments, was dropped from the list of the Yisrael Beitenu party of Avigdor Lieberman.

http://www.reporter.am/go/article/2009-02-19-armenia-s-israeli-friends-re-elected-to-knesset