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  • #11
    Re: News in Saudi Arabia

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    That's like the theory with banning drugs and other substances... just because it's illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
    It happens far too often and generally the penalties for offenders are far too soft. But one society punishes transgressors, the other allows it.

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    • #12
      Re: News in Saudi Arabia

      So is it better to sell your 8 yr old to eliminate debt or kill your entire family and commit suicde because you're in debt? Seems like a no win situation.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #13
        Re: News in Saudi Arabia

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        As if sick and disgusting things don't happen in Western society. Here they only kill and then rape children. Don't demonize an entire society for the actions of few.
        I don’t see how I was demonizing their society, this was not my intention.

        My post was to give the actual facts as reported by Arabs themselves. I know many do (it is natural to do) but it is not for me to pass judgment (based solely on my ethics and personal views) on other ancient societies and their cultural beliefs. That is their customs and code of conduct designed by their society which works for them and it deserves respect from others cultures regardless of how shocking it might be to us.

        It is not for us to judge THEIR morality based on OUR beliefs.
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • #14
          Re: News in Saudi Arabia

          My appologies Eddo, my comment was geared toward what Hrai said. I just quoted you for the reference to the article. It's not like the Saudi's like living under the power of the Saudi Royal Family.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #15
            Re: News in Saudi Arabia

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            My appologies Eddo, my comment was geared toward what Hrai said. I just quoted you for the reference to the article. It's not like the Saudi's like living under the power of the Saudi Royal Family.
            Kanada. To give me an option of either selling my daughter to pay off debt or committing suicide after killing my family because of the debt.... wow guy, how about "I'll work my a*s off to pay off my debt".
            I mention a society which condones actions abhorrent to mankind.
            Most societies do have these monsters you mention, in the west, who rape/murder/rape. The western societies don't condone these monsters, that's the difference.

            BTW, instances of recorded rape in Saudi Arabia are virtually nil, why?
            Because a woman who reports herself as having been raped is accused and found guilty of infidelity/adultery/sex out of marriage and is usually sentenced to death by stoning. Nice place, nice religion.

            If Saudis don't like the saudi royals they could do an Iran or get the hell out of dodge. (Better than selling a child)

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            • #16
              Re: News in Saudi Arabia

              Originally posted by hrai View Post
              Kanada. To give me an option of either selling my daughter to pay off debt or committing suicide after killing my family because of the debt.... wow guy, how about "I'll work my a*s off to pay off my debt".
              I mention a society which condones actions abhorrent to mankind.
              Most societies do have these monsters you mention, in the west, who rape/murder/rape. The western societies don't condone these monsters, that's the difference.

              BTW, instances of recorded rape in Saudi Arabia are virtually nil, why?
              Because a woman who reports herself as having been raped is accused and found guilty of infidelity/adultery/sex out of marriage and is usually sentenced to death by stoning. Nice place, nice religion.

              If Saudis don't like the saudi royals they could do an Iran or get the hell out of dodge. (Better than selling a child)
              How about you look for work for months and can't find any? Don't pretend like these aren't real world problems.

              And how many rapes go UNREPORTED because young people are afraid to come forward after an occurence. Out of sight, out of mind right?
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #17
                Re: News in Saudi Arabia

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                How about you look for work for months and can't find any? Don't pretend like these aren't real world problems.

                And how many rapes go UNREPORTED because young people are afraid to come forward after an occurence. Out of sight, out of mind right?
                Of course these are real world problems, but you give only two options :
                sell your 8 years old daughter or kill all your family.
                Which would you do?

                I mention rapes in Saudi Arabia in context of this thread, the medieval practices there which go beyond sense.

                So Kanada, come on. Sell your daughter or kill all the family? Which?

                (I'd do neither, either work my a*s off to repay the debt, sell my a*s off to repay the debt or lastly kill the mother who's willing to marry an 8 yrs old)

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                • #18
                  Re: News in Saudi Arabia

                  Originally posted by hrai View Post
                  Of course these are real world problems, but you give only two options :
                  sell your 8 years old daughter or kill all your family.
                  Which would you do?

                  I mention rapes in Saudi Arabia in context of this thread, the medieval practices there which go beyond sense.

                  So Kanada, come on. Sell your daughter or kill all the family? Which?

                  (I'd do neither, either work my a*s off to repay the debt, sell my a*s off to repay the debt or lastly kill the mother who's willing to marry an 8 yrs old)
                  I made that mention, because there have been several news stories lately of people murdering their families and committing suicide because they were in debt. I'm not questioning your morality
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #19
                    Re: News in Saudi Arabia

                    Hey KanadaHye, she is not taking too kindly to this.........I wouldn't piss her off if I were you.
                    ultimately she is right about this you know.
                    B0zkurt Hunter

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                    • #20
                      Re: News in Saudi Arabia

                      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                      Hey KanadaHye, she is not taking too kindly to this.........I wouldn't piss her off if I were you.
                      ultimately she is right about this you know.
                      Isn't this how you encourage conversation? By providing opposing views?
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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