Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Obama says he's expecting 'good health care bill'

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Obama says he's expecting 'good health care bill'

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said he is confident Congress will pass "a good health care bill," as months of rancor over reforming the nation's health care system seemed to be easing Sunday, with the White House playing down an immediate role for a government insurance option.

    At the same time, Obama was critical of Republican opponents who he said were trying to block an overhaul of the nation's heath care system for political gain.

    "I believe that we will have enough votes to pass not just any health care bill, but a good health care bill that helps the American people, reduces costs, actually over the long-term controls our deficit. I'm confident that we've got that," Obama said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes. "There are those in the Republican party who think the best thing to do is just to kill reform. That that will be good politics."

    Obama has retaken the offensive on his key domestic policy issue, most notably with a speech last week to both houses of Congress. And sought to turn down the heat over a government-run health insurance plan.

    "The public option is only a means to that end and we should remain open to other ideas that accomplish our ultimate goal," he said.

    Obama is trying to push opposing lawmakers away from positions — both left and right — that were threatening stalemate. That's what happened when Bill Clinton, the last Democratic president, tried to push through an overhaul in the 1990s.

    Obama's spokesman, Robert Gibbs, drove home that point again Sunday.

    The president "prefers the public option," Gibbs said. "However, he said what's most important is choice and competition."

    And Sen. Olympia Snowe, the Maine Republican who could be the party's only senator who votes with Democrats, believes choice and competition can be ensured without the public option.

    "It's not on the table. And it won't be," she said Sunday. "We'll be using the co-op as an option at this point, as the means for injecting competition in the process," she said.

    Snowe sits on a six-member panel — three from each party — of the Senate Finance Committee that is writing a version of the health care overhaul bill.

    Instead of the government running a program that provides low-cost health insurance, Snowe and fellow negotiators are considering a not-for-profit cooperative system. Those backing the measure contend it would substantially lower health insurance premiums by cutting out private-industry profits and guarantee coverage to all who want it.

    Such systems exist in some areas of the country but their success has been spotty.

    And Obama will have to be convinced that such a plan can succeed.

    "I have no interest in having a bill get passed that fails. That doesn't work," Obama told CBS. "You know, I intend to be president for a while and once this bill passes, I own it."

    Obama wants to make sure that any overhaul imposes strict measures to ban companies from refusing insurance to people with existing medical conditions, dropping coverage when policyholders become ill and imposing caps on what a person can claim for one illness or in his lifetime.

    He told CBS he didn't want Americans to say in the future: "'You know what? This hasn't reduced my costs. My premiums are still going up 25 percent, insurance companies are still jerking me around.'

    "I'm the one who's going to be held responsible," Obama said. "So I have every incentive to get this right."

    Obama is trying to sweeten the deal for Republicans by indicating he is open to their ideas.

    In his Wednesday speech and again in the CBS interview, the president signaled he was open the idea of so-called tort reform. Under current practice, doctors and hospitals must pay huge amounts to insure themselves against malpractice lawsuits by patients seeking large court-ordered settlements for poor treatment.

    Democrats, thanks to heavy backing from lawyers, have not supported Republican efforts to limit such payments. Doctors — and Republican politicians — say the current system drives up costs through unneeded medical procedures ordered by physicians who fear being sued.

    "I would be willing to ... consider any ideas out there that would actually work in terms of reducing costs, improving the quality of patient care," Obama said in the Sunday interview, which was taped Friday.

    While he said he did not back limits on court-ordered rewards for malpractice, he said "there are a range of ideas that are out there, offered by doctors' organizations like the AMA (American Medical Association), that I think we can explore."
    Positive vibes, positive taught

  • #2
    Re: Obama says he's expecting 'good health care bill'

    It is sad to see America so completely owned by special interest. The citizens of the richest country of the world cannot secure healthcare for their families because big business might lose a few bucks. At some point humanity has to rise up and protect itself against endless greed. People are going against their own interests because they hear and believe misleading adds on tv paid for by insurance companies whose sole purpose is to screw you out of more money while providing the fewest benefits possible.
    The biggest opponents of public healthcare endup retiring from public office (because they betrayed public trust) and working for the insurance companies who were paying then all along anyways. The complete domination of special interests over the United States of America is what will bring the downfall of this country.
    Hayastan or Bust.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Obama says he's expecting 'good health care bill'

      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
      It is sad to see America so completely owned by special interest. The citizens of the richest country of the world cannot secure healthcare for their families because big business might lose a few bucks. At some point humanity has to rise up and protect itself against endless greed. People are going against their own interests because they hear and believe misleading adds on tv paid for by insurance companies whose sole purpose is to screw you out of more money while providing the fewest benefits possible.
      The biggest opponents of public healthcare endup retiring from public office (because they betrayed public trust) and working for the insurance companies who were paying then all along anyways. The complete domination of special interests over the United States of America is what will bring the downfall of this country.

      It's not the richest country in the world, the average citizen is near or under the poverty line. You can say it is the most heavily invested country in the world. The money is there, but not in the pockets of the people. As for the article, the insurance companies are even driving doctors out of business. According to the article below, malpractive insurance costs practitioners so much that they can't even make ends meet so they are being force to shift careers. This can't be good timing with an aging population and a not so healthy general population. Money men, bankers, creditors, etc. are holding the world hostage with their interest rate games and insurance policies. The only way to de-throne them from their position of power is to stop playing their game.

      http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/14/news...ion=2009091404
      Last edited by KanadaHye; 09-14-2009, 06:58 AM.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Obama says he's expecting 'good health care bill'

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        It's not the richest country in the world, the average citizen is near or under the poverty line. You can say it is the most heavily invested country in the world. The money is there, but not in the pockets of the people. As for the article, the insurance companies are even driving doctors out of business. According to the article below, malpractive insurance costs practitioners so much that they can't even make ends meet so they are being force to shift careers. This can't be good timing with an aging population and a not so healthy general population. Money men, bankers, creditors, etc. are holding the world hostage with their interest rate games and insurance policies. The only way to de-throne them from their position of power is to stop playing their game.

        http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/14/news...ion=2009091404
        Bravo Kandahye jan, you said a mouthful! The insurance companies, the banks and mega wealthy thieves are playing a field game with people's hard earned monies or I should say with the middle class in the US that today a middle class exist no more. All thanks to the above-mentioned corprorations and people who are stealing the monies from us, the former middle class Americans.
        Last edited by Anoush; 09-15-2009, 06:46 AM.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Obama says he's expecting 'good health care bill'

          I do not like Obama at all, for several reasons not just the Genocide denial. He has taken advantage of the desperation of the American people, he has lied to them saying he can quote 'save them' and told them everything they wanted to hear while delivering them stones and instead of butter.

          If one thing can be said about the Obama administration it is that it will thirst for power to achieve its aims, and become more and more vicious the more desperate it becomes for greater and greater power.

          Obama is ushering in an era of politics equally brutal and deadly as the Nixon era which most hoped America had left behind.

          Comment

          Working...
          X