Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

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Mukuch replied

03-24-2011, 02:41 AM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by Persopolis View Post

A lot of authors have pointed out the Zionist connection - can they all be anti-semites? Should we stop asking questions as soon as we hear the word "anti-semite"?

All right.... who are thos authors? Could you mention some of them and sources wher this implications made?

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Persopolis replied

03-24-2011, 02:31 AM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by Mukuch View Post

That is all right... but I wonder is there any serios evidence of envolvment od xxxes organizationes in Armenian Genocide?
So far I havent find any exept of some very doubtfull implicationes by some really antisemite spheres...

Let's say that's true - Hitler was an anti-Semite, but Hitler also believed that wine can make a person drunk: Was he wrong? The point is that not everything that comes out of an anti-semite's mouth is false: facts should still be investigated. The second point is what proof is there that every single author who has noticed that some J*ws were involved in the Armenian Genocide is an anti-semite? A lot of authors have pointed out the Zionist connection - can they all be anti-semites? Should we stop asking questions as soon as we hear the word "anti-semite"?

I once explained it like this: If my family was subjected to genocide; and if there was even a tiny but reasonable suspicion that the Eskimos did it. I would investigate the Eskimos until the last breath in my body. And if the Eskimos don't like that, and call me "anti-Eskimo," what will I do? ANSWER: Tell the Eskimos to piss-off. J*ws don't get special treatment - all men are created equally when investigating crime - especially a serious crime like Genocide.

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Mukuch replied

03-24-2011, 02:15 AM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by Persopolis View Post

Where there is direct or circumstantial evidence that a group or organizations run by a certain group had a hand in Genocide, and someone points that out for purposes of discussion and investigation -- that's fair game; and there shouldn't be an issue. Would any Armenian refrain from exploring the involvement of the Turks in the Armenian Genocide if the Turks invented a new word called "Anti-TURKite"? For the same reason Armenians should not be intimidated from discussing the role of J*wish groups in the Armenian Genocide simply because they may attack you with the label "Anti-Semite" (or 'Anti-TURKite,' etc.). The objection isn't to the practice of their faith (= anti-Semitism), but to the CONDUCT of specific people and organizations regarding a serious crime (Genocide).

That is all right... but I wonder is there any serios evidence of envolvment od xxxes organizationes in Armenian Genocide?
So far I havent find any exept of some very doubtfull implicationes by some really antisemite spheres...
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Persopolis replied

03-24-2011, 12:39 AM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post

Armenians shouldn't feel special.... we are among a long list of people who were victims of Zionist policies. We shouldn't confuse ultra right wingers with the local J3wish family that runs a deli or barber shop. J3ws Plotted The Armenian Holocaust | Real Zionist News
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77 Let's also not let our fear of being called "Anti-Semites" abstain us from keeping track of those who are enemies of the Armenian nation.

Where there is direct or circumstantial evidence that a group or organizations run by a certain group had a hand in Genocide, and someone points that out for purposes of discussion and investigation -- that's fair game; and there shouldn't be an issue. Would any Armenian refrain from exploring the involvement of the Turks in the Armenian Genocide if the Turks invented a new word called "Anti-TURKite"? For the same reason Armenians should not be intimidated from discussing the role of J*wish groups in the Armenian Genocide simply because they may attack you with the label "Anti-Semite" (or 'Anti-TURKite,' etc.). The objection isn't to the practice of their faith (= anti-Semitism), but to the CONDUCT of specific people and organizations regarding a serious crime (Genocide).

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Mos replied

03-23-2011, 07:59 PM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post

Armenians shouldn't feel special.... we are among a long list of people who were victims of Zionist policies. We shouldn't confuse ultra right wingers with the local J3wish family that runs a deli or barber shop.

J3ws Plotted The Armenian Holocaust | Real Zionist News
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77

Let's also not let our fear of being called "Anti-Semites" abstain us from keeping track of those who are enemies of the Armenian nation.

But all the J3ws are not enemies of Armenians. It's a uncalled for generalisation. Only those right-wing Zionist j3ws that partner with American neo-cons and always supported closer Turkish ties.
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KanadaHye replied

03-23-2011, 07:43 PM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Armenians shouldn't feel special.... we are among a long list of people who were victims of Zionist policies. We shouldn't confuse ultra right wingers with the local J3wish family that runs a deli or barber shop.

J3ws Plotted The Armenian Holocaust | Real Zionist News
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77

Let's also not let our fear of being called "Anti-Semites" abstain us from keeping track of those who are enemies of the Armenian nation.
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Mos replied

03-23-2011, 07:23 PM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by Hayayrun View Post

Even if some Armenians here in Forum says that some Armenians, who are anti-semic, are "idiots" I will never change my mind I will always have the feeling "antipathy" against the xxxish people.

Right all J3wsh people in the world hate Armenians. Please give me source that points to the fact that J3ws as a whole hate us. These wild generalisations are uncalled for.
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Hayayrun replied

03-22-2011, 10:37 PM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by Mukuch View Post

Please do not confuse xxxs with Israeli state and some xxxes organizationes...

That is some thing new for me tell me more please.

Dear Mukuch,

here I give you 2 link please open them

Page not found – Agiasofia

http://www.agiasofia.com/terr_e.html

http://chicago.agrino.org/turkish_pogrom_against_the_greeks.htm

About that the xxxish people in Istanbul marked the homes of Armenians with a red cross I can't give you a link there are sayings from mouth to mouth.

xxxish don't love Armenians they hate them because Armenians are sucessful and very clever.

Since 16th century when the first xxxish imigrants came from Spain to otoman empire Armenians had trouble with turkish government.

Even if some Armenians here in Forum says that some Armenians, who are anti-semic, are "idiots" I will never change my mind I will always have the feeling "antipathy" against the xxxish people.

Best regard
HAYAYRUN
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Yedtarts replied

03-22-2011, 06:18 PM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post

The complete 575 page book
The J3wish Genocide of Armenian Christians
by
Christopher Jon Bjerknes
Enlarged Second Edition

Link to the .PDF (you know what to do the the XXX)
http://www.xxxishracism.com/xxxish_G...e_Enlarged.pdf

Warning! If you don't want to be exposed to information that might trick you into becoming an Anti-Semitic person, do not read any of Christopher Jon Bjerknes' material.

To make it less complicated: Link
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KanadaHye replied

03-22-2011, 02:50 PM
Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Originally posted by Persopolis View Post

There is also a 500 page journal article by a Dutch author on this subject - I think it's the best one: it's also already somewhere here on this site (maybe someone will post it if they remember his name?).

The complete 575 page book
The J3wish Genocide of Armenian Christians
by
Christopher Jon Bjerknes
Enlarged Second Edition

Link to the .PDF (you know what to do the the XXX)
http://www.xxxishracism.com/xxxish_G...e_Enlarged.pdf

Warning! If you don't want to be exposed to information that might trick you into becoming an Anti-Semitic person, do not read any of Christopher Jon Bjerknes' material.

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