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  • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

    The question remains... is that also what Israel wants them to do. If Israel believes it has the might to gain more territory by creating enemies via political infiltration, it would be to their advantage. However, I hope that the citizens in the surrounding states don't fall into that trap. They should work together to build bonds as a stance against Israeli policy but abstain from being the aggressors.
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      If the Arabs united, they would grab the world by its balls but esh Arab@ esh g'mna.
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        imagine if Muslims united.....(we would most likely be one of the first victims of such an alliance)
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        • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          imagine if Muslims united.....(we would most likely be one of the first victims of such an alliance)
          Muslims uniting is even more unlikely than Arabs uniting but if it were to happen, Armenia would have reason to worry only because Turkey would be a heavyweight member.
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          • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

            Originally posted by Federate View Post
            Muslims uniting is even more unlikely than Arabs uniting but if it were to happen, Armenia would have reason to worry only because Turkey would be a heavyweight member.
            Turkey is the least Muslim of all the Muslim majority states, it could unite the region under a Muslim banner but its citizens would be far from being Muslim. A lot like the United States that claims to be a Christian entity when it is highly secular. I don't believe, for example, that profit in the form of interest from banking is either a Muslim or Christian monetary policy.
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            • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              Turkey is the least Muslim of all the Muslim majority states, it could unite the region under a Muslim banner but its citizens would be far from being Muslim. A lot like the United States that claims to be a Christian entity when it is highly secular. I don't believe, for example, that profit in the form of interest from banking is either a Muslim or Christian monetary policy.
              I agree, had the same thing in mind. Times are a-changin' in Turkey though with the rise of AK parti. Secularism might be slowly being chipped away, though I believe it will never be replaced. Eastern Turkey is pretty religious too compared to the rest.
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              • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                Turkey is the least Muslim of all the Muslim majority states, it could unite the region under a Muslim banner but its citizens would be far from being Muslim. A lot like the United States that claims to be a Christian entity when it is highly secular. I don't believe, for example, that profit in the form of interest from banking is either a Muslim or Christian monetary policy.
                I wouldn't say so. There is a good portion of Turks that are religious - of course there exists a culture of secularity, especially in the big cities. There's still great respect to Islam in Turkey. Iranians actually are culturally not that religious - just see the Iranians living outside of Iran.
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                • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                  Originally posted by Mos View Post
                  I wouldn't say so. There is a good portion of Turks that are religious - of course there exists a culture of secularity, especially in the big cities. There's still great respect to Islam in Turkey. Iranians actually are culturally not that religious - just see the Iranians living outside of Iran.
                  The big cities is where the majority of the population is. No matter where in the world, the rural or farm/country areas are religious because their sustenance comes from the land.

                  I don't see how there is great respect to Islam. Ever since the introduction of secularism by Ataturk, Turkey has been a pseudo Muslim state. Which Muslim laws really remained part of Turkey? There is a Muslim legacy but the people themselves would never agree to be like Saudis.
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                  • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                    Everything is shamefull and will be painfull. The dictators have been loyal to the world stability interests. There betrail by western coutries is extreamly short sighned. How it will finish is not cleare, but for shure with the degradation for population and grate danger for the rest of the world. We can worry for the armenian communities in Middle Easte, where moderate regimes of Mubarek and Ased have made many good things in combating fundamentalism and supporting friendship between different confessions.

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                    • Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                      Originally posted by Mos View Post
                      I wouldn't say so. There is a good portion of Turks that are religious - of course there exists a culture of secularity, especially in the big cities. There's still great respect to Islam in Turkey. Iranians actually are culturally not that religious - just see the Iranians living outside of Iran.
                      One could also say the same thing about Armenians. Iran is a far more, reactionary and autocratic nation than Turkey and the Turks on the whole are more conservative, than they are 'religious'.

                      The Islamists influence in Turkey is a creeping one and they not only have to take over the countries legislative bodies, but also it's judiciary in order to stand any chance of dismantling it's present constitution.

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