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  • #21
    Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

    Originally posted by TomServo View Post
    This is why I'm kinda glad that the forum was renamed HyeClub; visitors are far more likely than ever before to be Armenians (not that being Armenian doesn't mean you can't be disgusted by some of the commentary here).
    As I read the daily list of members who are viewing the forum, I mostly see non Armenian participants.
    Unlike when I first joined the forum, where I'd see many Armenian names or handles.
    And unlike the several years emmediatlely preceding my joining this forum, where a great many ACTIVE participants seemed to be Armenian & show real concern for Armenian issues.
    Real concern & understanding.
    Seems like most of the members now a days don't participate at all. But then seems like most of the members aren't Armenian.
    This forum seems to have eliminated most of the active Armenian participation, while letting the Turk apologists have virtually a free & and unhindered pass.
    Ya, disgusted to find so few Armenians participating on the HYEclub & disgusted to see so many Armenians want to point out that turks aren't the only ones who have ...

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    • #22
      Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

      Japan may have apologized, and many in Japan are aware of their country's past crimes, however there are many in Japan that also deny their nation's prior wrong doings and believe much of it to be exaggerated or completely fabricated.

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      • #23
        Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

        Originally posted by ara87 View Post
        Japan may have apologized, and many in Japan are aware of their country's past crimes, however there are many in Japan that also deny their nation's prior wrong doings and believe much of it to be exaggerated or completely fabricated.
        Yes, you are absolutely right. Also the identicle is true in Germany & of Germans. I have personally met at least two Germans who if you let them would explain in great detail that the xxxish genocide never occurred. Also can find many Americans that deny or are xxxish haters.
        There is a dramatic and distinct difference between these groups & the denial of the Armenian genocide by the turk govt --- GOVERNMENT --- and the OVERWHELMING turk population & the propagating of these lies by the turk govt to the turk population.
        Neither Japan, nor Germany govt's hire frauds to deny or marginalized.
        Neither is there a collusion amongst countries to deny the 2nd genocide.
        These points that have been brought up are not appropriate in the discussion of the Armenian genocide that took place & IS taking place.
        They are inepropriate & margenalizing. A distraction from the point which is an apologist tool albeit a worthless one.
        One need look no further than the well educated champions of truth who have written extensively are the meriad fraudulent denialist lies.
        These kinds of arguments have no place in the Armenian genocide discussion & certainly no place in an ARMENIAN forum.
        Artashes

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        • #24
          Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

          Originally posted by Artashes View Post
          Yes, you are absolutely right. Also the identicle is true in Germany & of Germans. I have personally met at least two Germans who if you let them would explain in great detail that the xxxish genocide never occurred. Also can find many Americans that deny or are xxxish haters.
          There is a dramatic and distinct difference between these groups & the denial of the Armenian genocide by the turk govt --- GOVERNMENT --- and the OVERWHELMING turk population & the propagating of these lies by the turk govt to the turk population.
          Neither Japan, nor Germany govt's hire frauds to deny or marginalized.
          Neither is there a collusion amongst countries to deny the 2nd genocide.
          These points that have been brought up are not appropriate in the discussion of the Armenian genocide that took place & IS taking place.
          They are inepropriate & margenalizing. A distraction from the point which is an apologist tool albeit a worthless one.
          One need look no further than the well educated champions of truth who have written extensively are the meriad fraudulent denialist lies.
          These kinds of arguments have no place in the Armenian genocide discussion & certainly no place in an ARMENIAN forum.
          Artashes
          So, a news item posted in the General News section of the General Discussion section has "no place in an ARMENIAN forum". Will Artashes tell us what subjects he feels should be posted in the General News section of the General Discussion section of this forum? And also explain why he now states that the subject "has no place in the Armenian genocide discussion" given that he was the person who, with his racist posting, first tried to connect this news item to the issue of Turkey and the Armenian Genocide?
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • #25
            Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

            Originally posted by TomServo View Post
            Turkey is not uniquely loathsome in its denial of human rights abuses and atrocities...

            Public display of the statue is apparently "promoting hate towards the people and nation of Japan."

            34,894 signatures needed and more than 65,000 collected as of this posting.

            https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...-park/3zLr8dZh
            Originally posted by Artashes View Post
            Yes, you are absolutely right. Also the identicle is true in Germany & of Germans. I have personally met at least two Germans who if you let them would explain in great detail that the xxxish genocide never occurred. Also can find many Americans that deny or are xxxish haters.
            There is a dramatic and distinct difference between these groups & the denial of the Armenian genocide by the turk govt --- GOVERNMENT --- and the OVERWHELMING turk population & the propagating of these lies by the turk govt to the turk population.
            Neither Japan, nor Germany govt's hire frauds to deny or marginalized.
            Neither is there a collusion amongst countries to deny the 2nd genocide.
            These points that have been brought up are not appropriate in the discussion of the Armenian genocide that took place & IS taking place.
            They are inepropriate & margenalizing. A distraction from the point which is an apologist tool albeit a worthless one.
            One need look no further than the well educated champions of truth who have written extensively are the meriad fraudulent denialist lies.
            These kinds of arguments have no place in the Armenian genocide discussion & certainly no place in an ARMENIAN forum.
            Artashes
            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            So, a news item posted in the General News section of the General Discussion section has "no place in an ARMENIAN forum". Will Artashes tell us what subjects he feels should be posted in the General News section of the General Discussion section of this forum? And also explain why he now states that the subject "has no place in the Armenian genocide discussion" given that he was the person who, with his racist posting, first tried to connect this news item to the issue of Turkey and the Armenian Genocide?
            Yes, I (Artashes) will be happy to tell you & all who are reading.
            First, the thread was started by announcing that " turky is not the only loathsome..."
            ts wrote that. So your accusation that I was the first who tried to connect this with turkee has no merit.
            It was this connection made by ts that was and is objectionable.
            Second, you once again bring up your accusation of me being racist.
            As I pointed out to you , the accusations I presented are to be found in virtually EVERY historical account of the mongols, Huns, & turks. Except for their own glorifying historicle accounts & possibly northern Afghanistan, ALL other accounts from all other countries and historians express the extreme cruelty & heartlessness of this group.
            Your once again accusation that that is my exclusive racisist attitude is without merit.
            If you go to the various highly respected scholars who have written of the fraudulent scam by turkee & the west to deny the ligitimate complaint of whitewashing & margenalizing & denying the first genocide of the 20th century , you will find these arguments I have made are covered extensively & by renowned scholars who express themselves far better than I.
            Artashes

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            • #26
              Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

              Well said Artashes....thats what I am talking about.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • #27
                Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

                Originally posted by Artashes View Post
                If you go to the various highly respected scholars who have written of the fraudulent scam by turkee & the west to deny the ligitimate complaint of whitewashing & margenalizing & denying the first genocide of the 20th century , you will find these arguments I have made are covered extensively & by renowned scholars who express themselves far better than I.
                Artashes
                In which specific academic journals or texts can such renowned scholarship be found?

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                • #28
                  Re: Japanese American community trying to have Glendale's Korean comfort women statue removed

                  Originally posted by Artashes View Post
                  Yes, you are absolutely right. Also the identicle is true in Germany & of Germans. I have personally met at least two Germans who if you let them would explain in great detail that the xxxish genocide never occurred. Also can find many Americans that deny or are xxxish haters.
                  There is a dramatic and distinct difference between these groups & the denial of the Armenian genocide by the turk govt --- GOVERNMENT --- and the OVERWHELMING turk population & the propagating of these lies by the turk govt to the turk population.
                  Neither Japan, nor Germany govt's hire frauds to deny or marginalized.
                  Neither is there a collusion amongst countries to deny the 2nd genocide.
                  These points that have been brought up are not appropriate in the discussion of the Armenian genocide that took place & IS taking place.
                  They are inepropriate & margenalizing. A distraction from the point which is an apologist tool albeit a worthless one.
                  One need look no further than the well educated champions of truth who have written extensively are the meriad fraudulent denialist lies.
                  These kinds of arguments have no place in the Armenian genocide discussion & certainly no place in an ARMENIAN forum.
                  Artashes
                  Originally posted by Artashes View Post
                  Yes, I (Artashes) will be happy to tell you & all who are reading.
                  First, the thread was started by announcing that " turky is not the only loathsome..."
                  ts wrote that. So your accusation that I was the first who tried to connect this with turkee has no merit.
                  It was this connection made by ts that was and is objectionable.
                  Second, you once again bring up your accusation of me being racist.
                  As I pointed out to you , the accusations I presented are to be found in virtually EVERY historical account of the mongols, Huns, & turks. Except for their own glorifying historicle accounts & possibly northern Afghanistan, ALL other accounts from all other countries and historians express the extreme cruelty & heartlessness of this group.
                  Your once again accusation that that is my exclusive racisist attitude is without merit.
                  If you go to the various highly respected scholars who have written of the fraudulent scam by turkee & the west to deny the ligitimate complaint of whitewashing & margenalizing & denying the first genocide of the 20th century , you will find these arguments I have made are covered extensively & by renowned scholars who express themselves far better than I.
                  Artashes
                  Originally posted by TomServo View Post
                  In which specific academic journals or texts can such renowned scholarship be found?
                  Unbelievable question!!!!!
                  Israel Charny
                  Deborah Lipstadt
                  Seamus Heaney
                  Arthur Miller
                  Norman Mailer
                  John Updike
                  Kurt Vonnegut
                  To name but a feww of at least 150 of some of the worlds most respected thinkers & scholars.
                  And you can't find a specific academic journal?????
                  And you are not familiar with any academic work?????
                  How utterly pathetic
                  From Artashes

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