Military Aircrafts: Designs and Concepts

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Sweden, SAAB J-32 Lansen





Role-Attack aircraft, Fighter aircraft, Reconnaissance aircraft
Manufacturer-SAAB
First flight- 3 November 1952
Introduction-1956
Retired-1997
Primary user-Swedish Air Force
Produced-1954-1960
Number built-450

General characteristics


Crew: two
Length: 14.94 m (49 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 13.0 m (42 ft 8 in)
Height: 4.65 m (15 ft 3 in)
Wing area: 37.4 m² (402.6 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 13,500 kg (29,760 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Svenska Flygmotor RM 6A afterburning turbojet, 47.0 kN dry, 65.3 kN with afterburning (10,560 lbf / 14,685 lbf)

Performance


Maximum speed: 1200 km/h (745 mph)
Range: 2,000 km (1,240 mi)
Service ceiling: 15,000 m (49,200 ft)
Rate of climb: 100 m/s (19,685 ft/min)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_32_Lansen

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Sweden, Saab J-35 Draken




Role- Fighter aircraft
National origin- Sweden
Manufacturer- Saab
First flight- 5 October 1955
Introduction- 8 March 1960
Status- Retired

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 15.35 m (50 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 9.42 m (30 ft 10 in)
Height: 3.89 m (12 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 49.22 m² (529.82 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,865 kg (17,340 lb)
Loaded weight: 11,400 kg (25,132 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 16,000 kg (35,273 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Volvo Flygmotor RM 6C afterburning turbojet
Dry thrust: 56.5 kN (12,787 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 78.4 kN (17,637 lbf)


Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.2
Range: 3,250 km (2,020 mi) with external drop tanks
Service ceiling: 18,000 m (59,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 175 m/s (34,450 ft/min)
Wing loading: 231.6 kg/m² (47.4 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.70
Takeoff roll: 800 m (2,623 ft)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_35_Draken

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Germany, Gothaer Horten Ho-229



Role- Fighter/Bomber
Manufacturer- Gothaer Waggonfabrik
Designer- Horten brothers
First flight- 1 March 1944

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 7.47 m (24 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 16.76 m (55 ft 0 in)
Height: 2.81 m (9 ft 2 in)
Wing area: 50.20 m² (540.35 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
Loaded weight: 6,912 kg (15,238 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 8,100 kg (17,857 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Junkers Jumo 004B turbojet, 8.7 kN (1,956 lbf) each


Performance

Maximum speed: 977 km/h (estimated) (607 mph) at 12,000 metres (39,000 ft)
Service ceiling: 16,000 m (estimated) (52,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 22 m/s (estimated) (4,330 ft/min)
Wing loading: 137.7 kg/m² (28.2 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229

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General Military Helicopters







USSR, Kamov Ka-8 (1947)






General characteristics

Crew: one
Empty weight: 183 kg (403 lb)
Gross weight: 275 kg (606 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × M-76 (aero-engine) 2-cyl. horizontally opposed air-cooled piston engine, 33.4 kW (44.8 hp)
licence built BMW motorcycle engine
Main rotor diameter: 5.6 m (18 ft 4 in)

Performance

Maximum speed: 80 km/h (50 mph; 43 kn)
Service ceiling: 250 m (820 ft)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-8

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Russia, Kamov Ka-50 (1982)

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 16.0 m (52 ft)
Rotor diameter: 14.5 m (48 ft)
Height: 4.93 m (16.2 ft)
Disc area: 330.3 m² (3,555 sq ft)
Empty weight: 7,700 kg (17,000 lb)
Loaded weight: 9,800 kg (21,600 lb) , 10,400 kg (22,900 lb) for Ka-52
Max. takeoff weight: 10,800 kg (23,800 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Klimov VK-2500 turboshaft, 2,400 shp (1,800 kW) each


Performance

Never exceed speed: 350 km/h (220 mph; 190 kn) in dive
Maximum speed: 315 km/h (196 mph; 170 kn) in level flight
Cruise speed: 270 km/h (170 mph; 150 kn)
Range: 545 km (339 mi; 294 nmi)
Combat radius: 470 km (290 mi; 250 nmi)
Ferry range: 1,160 km (720 mi; 630 nmi) with 4 drop tanks
Service ceiling: 5,500 m (18,000 ft) operational, 4,000 m (13,000 ft) hover
Rate of climb: 12 m/s (2,400 ft/min)
Disc loading: 30 kg/m² (6.1 lb/sq ft)
Power/mass: 333 W/kg (0.203 hp/lb)

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^^^^what is the operational history of this chopper?

Notice guys it has no tail rotor because it has two main counter rotating rotors.

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^^^^what is the operational history of this chopper?

Notice guys it has no tail rotor because it has two main counter rotating rotors.

First flight 1982

[Artashes]

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^^^^what is the operational history of this chopper?

Notice guys it has no tail rotor because it has two main counter rotating rotors.

Ka 50 did really well in afgan mntns until us stinger show up. Excellent handling + tight space access unmatched.
The ka 50 IMO is the best in raw agility/performance no matter what the thers say. But it has next to no electronic/avionics sofistication, but relies on it shear flying capability. The ka 52 on the othe hand has everything the 50 has + sofistication . My info says all Russian ka 50 pilots hope to get into the 52.
Personally I think the ka 50 is well worth an "SM" (serial modernization), but size/space constraints may make that difficult.
With the right electronic/avionics package it's my 1st choice.

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Cool, thanks guys......stick and rudder aircraft. The avionics can be updated to glass instrument panel but there is always cost vs operational ability compared to today's choppers.
Counter-rotating choppers are harder to shoot down with small arms fire because of no tail rotor.

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Russia, Mil Mi-28 (1982)

General characteristics

Crew: Two: 1 pilot (rear), 1 navigator/weapons operator (front)
Length: 17.91 m (58 ft 9 in)
Rotor diameter: 17.20 m (56 ft 5 in)
Height: 3.82 m (12.5 ft (150 in))
Disc area: 232.35 m² (2,501 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,890 kg (17,400 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,500 kg (23,150 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 11,700 kg (25,800 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Klimov TV3-117 turboshaft, 1,636 kW (2,194 shp) each


Performance

Maximum speed: 324 km/h (175 knots, 201 mph)
Cruise speed: 265 km/h (145 knots, 168 mph)
Range: 435 km (234 nmi, 270 mi)
Combat radius: 200 km (108 nmi, 124 mi) ; with 10 min loiter and 5% reserves
Ferry range: 1,105 km (595 nmi, 685 mi)
Service ceiling: 4,950 m (16,250 ft)
Rate of climb: 13.6 m/s (816 m/min,[39] 2,677 ft/min)
Power/mass: 0.31 kw/kg for TV3-117 ()
Hovering ceiling: 3,600 m (11,811 ft)