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  • Mher
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    Iran has been winning against the West since Ayatollah Khomenie brought the revolution.....there is no military solution to Iran. The only way is restore good relations and eventually the hardliners will not be needed anymore and the moderates will come to power. The more threats they put against Iran, the less chance of any green revolution or a friendlier Iranian Government. The West must know this, or they can wait until the current supream leader dies of old age, maybe the replacement will be more moderate (don't count on it).

    Also consider this as an Armenian....if Iran looses, we loose badly. Northern Iran could be over runned by Turks and Azeris.
    You can argue the Iraq war that was kept up for 8 years by the support of the U.S was the reason the mullas are in power right now. My dad, who fought in the war would tell me that without the war, the mullas would have been overthrown in the early 1980's as they were never meant to come to power. But with the war, they had an excuse to keep the masses quite in the name of patriotism until they were entrenched in power.

    And to add to the earlier comment, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds causing untold amounts of suffering, but the U.S prevented the UN from speaking of this, then 15 years later, they used that excuse to invade Iraq. I mean really, and they dare to label Iran as dangerous and as terrorists?

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  • Mher
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    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
    What are you talking about? they've sent IRGC to help hizbullah several times, last example was in 2006 war, sent them to syria too, They've proxies all over Iraq, They have sent god knows how many missles to hamas, hizbullah and syria. They're a known terrorist supporter, how is that not "attacking anyone" ?
    As Eddo said, the word terrorist is just a term used to label non-governmental organizations that don't cooperate with America and Israel, It means nothing. The Contras who were supported by the Reagan administration were responsible for the death of 40,000 people and all sorts of appalling human rights violations in the 1980's in Nicaragua. Yet you don't here much about that. Instead they were called freedom fighters. Why? Because they were willing to support Americas policies. Hell, the man you see in my avatar was listed as a terrorist by America. As far as I'm concerned, it's a complement to get that label.

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  • Eddo211
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
    What are you talking about? they've sent IRGC to help hizbullah several times, last example was in 2006 war, sent them to syria too,
    Iran is a regional power, a very strong regional power feared by many Arab states and Israelis, the temporary troops it might send is to protect its interests and influence in the area its nothing compared to her enemies built up in the area.

    They've proxies all over Iraq, They have sent god knows how many missles to hamas, hizbullah and syria. They're a known terrorist supporter, how is that not "attacking anyone" ?
    So by your logic Iran is a supporter of terrorists but when Israel supports/influenced PJAK again Iran it is not. Tell me, what is the difference between Iran helping Hezbollah or its proxies in Iraq compared to US support of Taliban/Al Qaeda during Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    Iran has been winning against the West since Ayatollah Khomenie brought the revolution.....there is no military solution to Iran. The only way is restore good relations and eventually the hardliners will not be needed anymore and the moderates will come to power. The more threats they put against Iran, the less chance of any green revolution or a friendlier Iranian Government. The West must know this, or they can wait until the current supream leader dies of old age, maybe the replacement will be more moderate (don't count on it).

    Also consider this as an Armenian....if Iran looses, we loose badly. Northern Iran could be over runned by Turks and Azeris.

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  • retro
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    And it's not like Israel is very popular around the world. In fact, it's a headache for most governments, including its allies, and the only reason they don't also criticise Israel is special interests. Israel is hypochondriac and paranoid. Though J3ws in general are like that also. Just read about the security on El Al airlines, the national airline of Israel, which is regarded as toughest airline security in world.
    That crowd are a pain in the ass.

    Have you seen the film “Defamation” by Yoav Shamir?

    Last edited by retro; 11-09-2011, 03:19 AM.

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  • retro
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    Originally posted by Mher View Post
    lol this is great. It shows even the very people that keep Israel in power hate Israel and only do it because they have to in order to be elected.
    Well Sarkozy is a Jooz himself. However the bean counter Netanyahu is certainly a prevaricator and he is hardly especially personable. As for Obama, 87% of American Joozs voted for him and whilst he is lazy he can be counted upon to do what his masters tell him.

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  • arakeretzig
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    They have send no troops to any country and have not attacked anyone in 300 years.
    What are you talking about? they've sent IRGC to help hizbullah several times, last example was in 2006 war, sent them to syria too, They've proxies all over Iraq, They have sent god knows how many missles to hamas, hizbullah and syria. They're a known terrorist supporter, how is that not "attacking anyone" ?

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  • Mos
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    Mos:
    in regards to Israel not being critisized you are right......but I have a feeling this time they will not get away with it as easy.
    And it's not like Israel is very popular around the world. In fact, it's a headache for most governments, including its allies, and the only reason they don't also criticise Israel is special interests. Israel is hypochondriac and paranoid. Though J3ws in general are like that also. Just read about the security on El Al airlines, the national airline of Israel, which is regarded as toughest airline security in world.

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  • Eddo211
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    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    I would have thought just the constant threat of being attacked would be enough to try and acquire
    the ultimate defence weapon.

    In both Iraq and Libya the first stage was to eliminate any (possibility of a) threat of nuclear capability
    while they were being outmanoeuvred and ultimately destroyed.

    On the other hand despite flirting with the idea of regime change in North Korea, every time they back off.
    Yes, in fact Iran has shown much tolerance.....she is surrounded by Nukes and being threatened to be bombed back to stone age. They have send no troops to any country and have not attacked anyone in 300 years.

    Mos:
    in regards to Israel not being critisized you are right......but I have a feeling this time they will not get away with it as easy.

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  • Mher
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    Originally posted by retro View Post
    Sarkozy to Obama: Netanyahu is a liar

    The French president's overheard remark to President Barack Obama that Israel's prime minister is a "liar" has laid bare escalating international frustration at deadlocked peace efforts - and left all three world leaders looking blemished.

    Obama, heard through an interpreter, responded: "I have to work with him every day".

    Some Israelis felt French President Nicolas Sarkozy uttered out loud what many think in private about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Others were shocked, and embarrassed.

    http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/bre...109-1n5z6.html
    lol this is great. It shows even the very people that keep Israel in power hate Israel and only do it because they have to in order to be elected.

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  • retro
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    Sarkozy to Obama: Netanyahu is a liar

    The French president's overheard remark to President Barack Obama that Israel's prime minister is a "liar" has laid bare escalating international frustration at deadlocked peace efforts - and left all three world leaders looking blemished.

    Obama, heard through an interpreter, responded: "I have to work with him every day".

    Some Israelis felt French President Nicolas Sarkozy uttered out loud what many think in private about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Others were shocked, and embarrassed.

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