Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

[retro]

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China sources 40% of it's oil from Iran, and Europe would will be badly effected in terms of trade, but not so much the US. As it sources most of it's oil from dodgy, rigs in the Gulf of Mexico and Canada.

If Iran closes Hormuz, then the US Navy will blow Iran's entire Navy to smithereens in short order and blockade Iran's trade. Then all the US need do is take out Iran's pipelines and without it's oil revenues, Iran's doomed.

Iran's illegitimate, Islamist regimes hold on power is weak. Which is why it's forced to become ever more repressive and act like a clown on the world stage. However I don't think that the west wants a war with Iran. Israel maybe, but not the west.

[KanadaHye]

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China sources 40% of it's oil from Iran, and Europe would will be badly effected in terms of trade, but not so much the US. As it sources most of it's oil from dodgy, rigs in the Gulf of Mexico and Canada.

If Iran closes Hormuz, then the US Navy will blow Iran's entire Navy to smithereens in short order and blockade Iran's trade. Then all the US need do is take out Iran's pipelines and without it's oil revenues, Iran's doomed.

Iran's illegitimate, Islamist regimes hold on power is weak. Which is why it's forced to become ever more repressive and act like a clown on the world stage. However I don't think that the west wants a war with Iran. Israel maybe, but not the west.

The question is where would Russia stand? If it's China+Russia+Iran+Rogue Leftist states VS. U.S.+Europe+Israel I'd say it would be a pretty good battle. I don't think attacking Iran is a wise choice but I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans who will take the thrown after Obama's "restructuring" will go ahead and be stupid regardless.

[londontsi]

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If Iran is attacked oil prices will sky rocket irrespective of what is the source of the oil a country buys from.

The reason for this is twofold.

Fear of perceived shortage of oil, i.e. markets, speculators etc AND
actual shortage because of supplies or supply routes blocked.

Theoretically all oil producers will become super rich including Russia and Azerbaijan.

The fly in the ointment is, will consumers ( afford to) buy at those prices,
will the whole world economy go into a recession AS WELL AS
any major military conflicts for example if Iran decides to strike US Navy in the Gulf etc.
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Also lets not forget any direct ( overt ) help to the Taliban in Afghanistan.
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[Haykakan]

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I think US-Israeli attack on Iran is what Russia wants. The higher prices for oil and gas is what Russia wants since it is a huge exporter of both. Should the Iranian oil be cutoff to China then Russia will hold even more leverage against the chinese as its role of supplier of natural resources will be even stronger.The war with Iran will overextend the USA military making it very vulnerable to attack. Russia is sitting in a pretty good position and can make a difference one way or another whichever serves its interests best. Russia has no love for a islamic power near its borders thus it may want the islamic regime to fail but i doubt it wants it replaced by a USA-Israeli puppet. It is very possible i think that before this war reaches its climax Russia will intervene in some way. I am more concerned about the impact all of this will have on Hayastan. Blockade of Iran will mean complete isolation for us since the Georgians are governed by turckish/western puppets.

[ashot24]

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Why don't the USA, Israel and the West just don't shut up and wait? Ahmadinejad is a simple president, he will have to leave power one day. We all know Iran has no nuclear weapons, which in change Israel has. Doesn't Israel presents much danger than any other country in the region?

Ahmadinejad is no dictator though the media wants to present him as one. And at the end, if you want him out of power so much, organize the oppositionists and overthrow him, Iranians already threw a Western-backed Shah, a simple "democratically" elected president should be no problem.

A war with Iran will literally unleash hell, a chain of armed conflicts will start all around the world. It will be WWIII and IV, and we don't know what consequences it will have. But surely they will not be good...

My message to the USA and Israel, sit down, shut up, and xxxxing wait!

[KanadaHye]

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A war with Iran will literally unleash hell, a chain of armed conflicts will start all around the world. It will be WWIII and IV, and we don't know what consequences it will have. But surely they will not be good...

My message to the USA and Israel, sit down, shut up, and xxxxing wait!

They are waiting... until it's the Republicans turn to f**k up the country and more over, the world.

[ashot24]

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They are waiting... until it's the Republicans turn to f**k up the country and more over, the world.

No empire lasts forever, the West power over the world will be over sooner than people thinks. And that process will only be faster if they start a war with Iran. The USA has lost its influence over the world economically speaking and they will be losing its political influence in the coming decades, so they have to resort to the last they have which is militar power, and they know that.

All empires go through phases from the top to the bottom, even Rome fell, something which back then seemed impossible. As your own signature says, America has gone right to the phase of degeneration. It is only a matter of time, and a matter of the right situation in the right time.

[londontsi]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10886435

Britain's Prime Minister accuses Iran of owning a nuclear weapon

Also watch (video) his brown nose ( its only Turkish she.t)

[retro]

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The question is where would Russia stand? If it's China+Russia+Iran+Rogue Leftist states VS. U.S.+Europe+Israel I'd say it would be a pretty good battle. I don't think attacking Iran is a wise choice but I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans who will take the thrown after Obama's "restructuring" will go ahead and be stupid regardless.

You over look the fact that the West has a Asian ally in India. China is unlikely to risk become directly involved in what is Russia's sphere and a nuclear Iran is hardly in Russia's or China's strategic intrests.

I suspect that Israel seeks the annexation of Southern Lebanon. As Israel already desalinates around 15-20% of it's water and it lacks the resources to support it's further population expansion.

The Lebanon-Israel border clash the other week is not a good sign. The Lebanese are a very sophisticated and cultured people. However sadly Lebanon is little more than a fortified, Islamist Syrian/Iranian puppet state at this point.

No doubt, the Turks backing of the Kurds and not the lot of the poor Palestinians in Gaza. Had a major role to play in the Orc hordes, rather cynically, staged falling out with the Israelis. However the good news is that this has shuffled the deck and damaged all sorts of ties.

[Haykakan]

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Norman Finkelstein was in town last night and gave a lecture which i attended. I respect this man for standing up for the truth and human rights many times to his own detriment (he lost his tenure track position due to his refusal to paint a zionist version of everything). The lecture was in a islamic center of Rochester Michigan. I had never been in a muslim community center and did not know what to expect. To make things more interesting my mother who usually has no interest in such matters insisted on coming with me. We arrived early and someone asked me where the women will be sitting. I had no idea there were different seating sections based on sex. I told him i had no idea and he looked at me with a surprised expression. My mother and i started wondering if we would be allowed to sit togather. The room was wide and there was a divider going through the middle so people on both sides could see the speaker but not each other. Dinner was served first and i wonder if the dinner was the reason for dividing the sexes or was it the lecture? My mother and i sat togather in the mens section and there were a few other women sitting in this section while there were a few women wearing islamic clothing in the womens section. One of the people sitting at the table next to us was a collegue of my mothers from their residency days and recognized her. He approached her and greeted her very warmly and was very attentive and friendly and very surprised to see her there. He introduced us to a few other people in the audiance who were in the medical proffesion and we chatted while waiting for the lecture to start. Norman was pretty much the same guy i saw on the internet. His speech was slow and methodical but complete and to the point. He mostly discussed the attack on Gaza where 1400 people were killed and white phosphorus was used. His point was that there was no Gaza war and it was a massacre and nothing more. He pointed out that Israels failure in the last Lebonon war has made the zionist state feel that it has to prove its superiority and it plans on doing this with another attack on Lebonon. During the break i had him sign my book and asked him about the coming war with Iran. He said that he does not think there will be a war with Iran but he said a proxy war was unavoidable between Lebanon with the support of Iran and Syria vs Israel with the support of the USA. He stated niether side is willing to give a inch and that this is going to be the bloodiest fighting we have yet seen. He stated that Israel is planning a falseflag operation which will inflict heavy casualties on Israelis to justify the next attack on Lebonan. It was a interesting evening to say the least. I have been to many lectures in the Armenian community center in Dearborn and i must say there is more respect for the speaker there then there was at this Islamic center. There were children yelling, screaming, banging the walls and some people were talking during the lecture. The experience was interesting for me. The divisions between the sexes during dinner was unexpected but that is due to my own ignorence of islamic customs. Not all the women were segregated and it seemed more of a volantary thing. My mother and i were treated very well and felt welcomed there. I thought sharing this experience with you in this thread was the appropriate thing to do.