Which ArmenianClub members would you most like to meet?

[axel]

Re: Which ArmenianClub members would you most like to meet?

Like a dumber version of him, right?

No that wasn't my thinking. By intellectual depth, I meant what comes with erudition (which doesn't have much to do with intelligence in itself). You may be an erudite too. Can't really tell from here but if you already have the looks...

All this time I though I was truly unique in my rhetoric, not to mention intellectual brilliance...

This board is actually full of very "unique" individuals (take our beloved Siamanto for instance).
I guess, we, Armenians, are pretty "unique", pretty "special", generally speaking

[Fedayeen]

Re: Which ArmenianClub members would you most like to meet?

We should get together, like most of you live here in SoCal.

That would be nice.

[sad_eyes]

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Siamanto and Anonymouse

[skhara]

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From the wiki article:

Dugin's ideas, particularly those on "a Turkic-Slavic alliance in the Eurasian sphere" have recently become popular among certain nationalistic circles in Turkey.Dugin's ideas, particularly those on "a Turkic-Slavic alliance in the Eurasian sphere" have recently become popular among certain nationalistic circles in Turkey.

Yep, that's Armenian all right.

[Armenian]

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From the wiki article: Dugin's ideas, particularly those on "a Turkic-Slavic alliance in the Eurasian sphere" have recently become popular among certain nationalistic circles in Turkey.

Yep, that's Armenian all right.

Turkic-Slavic alliance?!?!?!

I hate that bastard, now. And I was lying, I don't look like him

[axel]

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This is actually quite interesting and I am glad you picked that up.
If we compare both discourses, this is really an epsilon.
And if it weren't for our friend Armenian being armenian...
Think a bit... do people glorifying comrade stalin embarass themselves with ethical scruples?
And "geopolitically" speaking, an alliance with turkey does make sense after all...

[crusader1492]

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Selpak please don't get you're hope on because I don't want to meet a retard like you lol

Now that you insulted him, he'll probably attempt to murder a Kurd or an Armenian journalist

[Armenian]

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And "geopolitically" speaking, an alliance with turkey does make sense after all...

Well, "strategically" it does make sense, somewhat.

Here is a site dedicated to it: http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=213

But there are many other factors that need to be considered as well, not the least of which is the geopolitical status-quo on earth today and cultural/sociological factors that exist between peoples.

It is well known that there has been historic distrust and rivalry between Turks and Russians. Both peoples number approximately the same, they both live in close proximity to each other and they can potentially compete for the region's natural resources and political influence. Russians already have demographic and domestic problems with Muslims and Turanians. Also, in order for any talk about a Russian-Turkish alliance to occur certain aspects of Russian and Turkish nationalism need to be put aside first.

And these elements of nationalism are fundamental parts of Russian and Turkish national identity and political outlook. Will Turkey, for example, be willing to forget about its presence in the Back Sea and the Caucasus? Is Ankara willing to forget about it's pan-Turkic aspirations in Central Asia? Is Ankara willing to forget about Azerbaijan? Is Ankara willing to down grade its alliance with various nations? Is Ankara willing to be at the mercy of Russia when it comes to acquiring oil and gas? Is Ankara willing to turn against the West? Is Ankara willing to abandon the EU in total? Perhaps. But what are the chances of these drastic changes to occur?

Besides, a Russo-Turkish alliance does not necessarily equate to a second Armenian Genocide. What interest would Moscow have in eliminating the Armenian factor in the Caucasus?

Nevertheless, for any of these fundamental changes to occur there needs to be drastic revolutionary changes within the politics and societies of both Russia and Turkey. Something close to what we are discussing almost occurred in the early stages of the Bolshevik revolution. There was an attempt by Turks and Bolsheviks to forge an alliance. Because Armenia at the time was defenseless Armenians lands were given away to Turkey and Azerbaijan in oder to facilitate this alliance. But, as we now know, the Turkish flirtation with the Bolsheviks was simply a rouse, for Ankara was looking westward.

There will always be a risk of the major nations in the region - be it Iran, Turkey or Russia - uniting at our expense. There might even be a day when Russia is not able to render us any support. And that is exactly why we need to have a capable military, a self-sustained economy, and a efficient diplomatic corps - for those rainy days when we are alone.

In short: There are many variables to this debate and the geopolitical dynamics of the region is such that a Russian-Turkish alliance is highly unlikely. As a matter of fact, there is more of a danger of us Armenians alienating Russians. We almost did that several times in the last fifteen years. We have a lot of shortsighted morons in our society and government. That is why I take anti-Russian talk by Armenians very seriously and I look at individuals such as Paruyr Hayrikyan and Levon Ter Petrosyan as longterm dangers to the Armenian Republic.

Anyway, this topic belong in the Russian thread, not here. If you want to continue please continue there.

[Siamanto]

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Siamanto and Anonymouse

I apologize for the late reply, I was just told that my name was mentioned in this thread.

Considering that I have always appreciated the natural kindness and truthfulness of your soul, the passionate and principled stance in your views, the harmonious marriage of traditions and modernity in your values...I feel flattered.

Instead of answering the question of the thread, I will simply express my hope that those who left for HyteVitality will have the generosity to return to AC.

[Siamanto]

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Like a dumber version of him, right?

No that wasn't my thinking. By intellectual depth, I meant what comes with erudition (which doesn't have much to do with intelligence in itself). You may be an erudite too. Can't really tell from here but if you already have the looks...

What you politely call "erudition," some of us call "knowledge, literature and culture" - what he, obviously, lacks.
LOL In any case, when an "erudite," don't you think that he'll be - to be polite - a vulgar and redneck version of Ara Baliozian?

Like a dumber version of him, right? Well, that is sad.

LOL Yes, it is sad to see dumb bullies like you. By the way, how come you missed the vulgar, illiterate and uncultured aspect? Too dumb to see???

All this time I though I was truly unique in my rhetoric, not to mention intellectual brilliance...

LOL You can be as "funny" as a jurk!