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Sibel Edmonds - "Kill The Messenger" - Full Documentary
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Re: Sibel Edmonds - "Kill The Messenger" - Full Documentary
By Weekly Staff - on August 7, 2009
WASHINGTON - On Aug. 7, the National Whistleblower Legal Defense and
Education Fund fought efforts by the FBI and the Department of Justice
to prevent Sibel D. Edmonds from testifying in a case of alleged
election fraud. Sibel Edmonds is scheduled to testify before the Ohio
Elections Commission in response to a subpoena in the Schmidt
v. Krikorian case. Both the Department of Justice and the FBI are
attempting to halt her from testifying.
On behalf or Ms. Edmonds, the Fund sent a letter earlier this week
requesting that Attorney General Holder independently review the basis
upon which the State Secrets privilege was initially invoked against
Ms. Edmonds.
On Aug. 6, Valerie Caproni, General Counsel of the FBI, and Vesper
Mei, Senior Counsel with the Department of Justice responded by
claiming that the subpoena to testify served on Edmonds was invalid
and sought to bar her from appearing. The DOJ claimed that Edmonds is
under `no compulsion' to testify in the Krikorian case and the FBI
asserted that she, `does not have approval for any disclosure of any
information.'
Neither the Justice Department nor the FBI has stated why testimony in
a case of alleged election fraud would involve State Secrets and/or
involve national security.
According to Sibel Edmonds' counsel, Michael D. Kohn (President of the
National Whistleblowers Center), `The thrust of the government's
action is aimed at self-censorship of a witness. As far as we are
concerned, if the government wants censorship then it must do it
itself as Ms. Edmonds will have no part in censorship.' To this end,
Edmonds' counsel responded to the FBI and DOJ stating: `We hereby
place you on notice that the failure to take appropriate action (i.e.,
seeking to quash the deposition dispatching legal counsel to the
deposition, or raising the States Secrets Privilege before the
Commission) may be construed as a waiver of any legitimate basis the
FBI may have to keep Ms. Edmonds from testifying' and `If you believe
that the FBI or the Justice Department has any legal basis to halt the
deposition or to prevent Ms. Edmonds from testifying, please take
whatever action you deem necessary in that regard. The responsibility
for doing so is yours not Ms. Edmonds.'
According to Mr. Kohn: `The First Amendment protects Sibel Edmonds'
right to testify truthfully without government intervention and we are
disheartened that the Justice Department's actions evidence a
different approach.'General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Re: Sibel Edmonds - "Kill The Messenger" - Full Documentary
Source: http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot...s-hastert.html
The following snippet is from a recent interview of Sibel Edmonds by Brad Friedman.
Brad Friedman: (24.30min) One of those folks is actually Dennis Hastert, former Speaker of the House, who has now gone to work for the Turkish government.
Sibel Edmonds: Isn't that amazing. Because as you know in August 2005 Vanity Fair had a six or seven page on this issue, and the fact that several FBI agents and Dept of Justice officials as sources, and some congressional people confirmed to this reporter, David Rose, that then-Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was the recipient of various bribery and other illegal conduct, let's put it that way.
And this (article) came out, and Dennis Hastert didn't do anything, they didnt sue Vanity Fair. In fact, they didn't really issue a real denial, and as you know he resigned a year later, and now he works actually for the Turkish Lobby that the Vanity Fair article named as one of the entities that was giving Mr Hastert these bribes.
Brad Friedman: Oh, Vanity Fair actually named that particular firm?
Sibel Edmonds: Correct, because they work with the American Turkish Council, and the ATA, and they are the clients for the lobbying firms that he's working for today. And the Government of Turkey of course, this lobbying firm for Hastert is now registered for Foreign Agents Registration Act...General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Re: Sibel Edmonds - "Kill The Messenger" - Full Documentary
UPDATES INCLUDE: CONGRESS MEMBERS NAMED IN ESPIONAGE, BRIBERY, SEXUAL BLACKMAIL SCHEMES; NEW BREWSTER JENNINGS / VALERIE PLAME DISCLOSURE... | 'State Secrets' privilege NOT asserted by DoJ; FBI whistleblower answered ALL questions under oath on Turkish infiltration of U.S. Government...
Sibel Edmonds is a noble Turk.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Re: Sibel Edmonds - "Kill The Messenger" - Full Documentary
THE CONGRESSWOMAN AND THE TURKISH LOBBY SEXUAL BLACKMAIL RING
Wayne Madsen
Online Journal
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Aug 12, 2009, 00:23
(WMR) -- WMR previously reported that Representative Jan Schakowsky
(D-IL), a close ally of President Barack Obama and his chief of staff,
former Representative Rahm Emanuel, who, like Schakowsky, represented
a Chicago district, was sexually blackmailed by a lesbian prostitute
who worked for the American Turkish Council (ATC).
The ATC and its affiliated Turkish government lobbying organizations
were cited by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds in her deposition
in an Ohio Election Commission complaint filed by Representative
Jean Schmidt (R-OH) against her 2008 opponent, David Krikorian,
over statements by Krikorian that Schmidt received financial support
from the Turkish lobby in the United States. Edmonds was subpoenaed
for a deposition in the case in support of Krikorian's allegations
that the Turkish Lobby has wielded tremendous influence over
U.S. policymakers like Schmidt in Congress. After raising objections
to Edmonds's testimony, pursuant to a state secret gag order imposed
by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, neither the Justice Department
nor the FBI moved to block Edmonds's statements at her deposition on
August 8 in Washington, DC.
WMR has received additional confirmation from a high-level
congressional source that Schakowsky regularly engaged in a lesbian
sexual tryst at a Washington, DC, townhouse with a female employee
of the ATC. WMR previously reported that law enforcement sources
told us that the tryst location was bugged by a Turkish surveillance
team that recorded the encounters. The recordings were later used
to blackmail Schakowsky into backing away from supporting Armenian
genocide resolution initiatives in the House. The surveillance
operation was so complex, a second surveillance team monitored the
primary team to ensure the bugging devices were properly installed
before what the FBI called the "hooking process" commenced.
WMR has obtained from a law enforcement source the first name of the
ATC employee but we are withholding it from release to protect the
privacy of someone who may have been forced into the prostitution
situation by Turkish intelligence officers.
WMR has been informed that another Democratic member of the House was
contacted in 2006 by a controversial web journalist who ostensibly
represents the "progressive" community and who is a competitor of
WMR. The journalist inquired as to whether the member had heard
anything about Schakowsky having a lesbian affair with a possible
foreign intelligence operative. The member replied no but would ask
Schakowsky in private about it during their next meeting. The member
met with Schakowsky in the Chicago Democrat's House office and stated:
"Jan, you know sometimes that in our position we are often put into
the position of doing things that we normally would not do."
Upon hearing that, Schakowsky appeared to understand what was being
intimated and she threw her head back and became very upset. Schakowsky
then replied that she did not care about the situation because she was
"getting in good with the leadership." At the time, Dennis Hastert,
who was also alleged to have received bribes from the Turkish Lobby,
was Speaker of the House.
The latest information received by WMR appears to indicate that Hastert
was well aware of the sexual blackmail by Turkish intelligence agents
being used against Schakowsky and that he approved of it.
The House member who was contacted by the journalist later told the
journalist that Schakowsky had been contacted and that "she seemed to
understand the issue and was quite upset about it," adding she "tried
to get in with the leadership." The journalist, who is supportive
of Israeli policies, never revealed Schakowsky's name but appeared
to be involved in a fishing expedition to see what other members of
the House knew about Schakowsky's situation at the time.
The member was appalled at Schakowsky's explanation because the member
considered her to be a "soul mate" on issues ranging from opposition
to the Iraq war -- Schakowsky had opposed the Iraq War Resolution --
to private military contractors and U.S. Israeli policy. Schakowsky
was a founding member of the Out-of-Iraq Caucus.
The member stated that after the encounter over the "lesbian" issue,
Schakowsky "went quiet" on all her signature issues, including her
vocal opposition to the role of private military contractors, adding
that she became very hawkish in support of Israel.
The member felt that Schakowsky was "set up" by the Turkish Lobby,
working in concert with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
(AIPAC), to "control her." The member also said that Schakowsky
noticeably "backed off" many issues, including the role of private
military companies.
In January 2007, after the Democrats captured the House, Speaker
Nancy Pelosi appointed Schakowsky to be a member of the House Select
Committee on Intelligence. Currently, Schakowsky is chair of the
House Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Oversight
and Investigations -- which puts her in a conflict-of-interest in
investigating Turkish and related Israeli intelligence penetration
of the FBI and State Department, as stated under oath by Edmonds,
and the paying of bribes by Turkish government interests to current
and former members of Congress.
WMR has also learned from congressional sources that Illinois Governor
Rod Blagojevich was aware of Schakowsky's "problems" and that he
resisted pressure from Obama and Emanuel to appoint Schakowsky to
Obama's vacant Senate seat. When Blagojevich signaled he was going
to appoint someone other than Schakowsky to the seat, the joint
Israeli and Turkish lobbies, in addition to Emanuel, arranged for
U.S. Attorney for Northern Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald to receive a
green light to arrest Blagojevich even before any federal corruption
indictments were handed down by a grand jury. Blagojevich was later
impeached by the Illinois House and removed from office by the state
senate. An indictment on multiple counts was later handed down by a
federal grand jury.
WMR has previously reported that Fitzgerald dragged his feet on the
investigation of the leak by the Bush White House of the covert
identities of CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson and her Brewster
Jennings & Associates cover firm. Fitzgerald, WMR is told, was
trying to limit damaging exposure to the nuclear smuggling operation
that involved the Turkish and Israeli Lobbies and Turkish MIT and
Israeli Mossad intelligence operations. Mrs. Wilson and her team were
apparently narrowing in on the Turks and Israelis in nuclear smuggling
around the world. The key U.S. government players in outing Brewster
Jennings were named by Edmonds in her deposition.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Re: Sibel Edmonds - "Kill The Messenger" - Full Documentary
Sibel Edmonds Update from BradBlog on Krikorian v Schmidt Case- Rep. Schmidt deposed, and she says she doesn't know why the Turkish lobby gave her all that money!! http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7382"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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