Where The $$$ Is...

[gmd]

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I agree, 75K-100K wouldn't be enough for a family of 5. I hope those kids are almost old enough to start paper routes, cutting lawns or bus'ing tables. Or dare I say you best be pimpin' out the wife

I'll take the last part as a bad joke and not overreact.

Kids are still young but they keep busy and have a value not measured in dollars.

[KanadaHye]

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I am really not a materialistic person. If anything in some respects I am the opposite. Living in S.California on the amt you show above and raising 3 kids does not leave any kind of decent chunk in the bank. Maybe some indecent change at best. I guess I need to take up pimpin to make some chunk to put away.

I agree, 75K-100K wouldn't be enough for a family of 5. I hope those kids are almost old enough to start paper routes, cutting lawns or bus'ing tables. Or dare I say you best be pimpin' out the wife

[gmd]

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The future will be in the green/alternate energy fields.

Massive unemployment and worldwide depression is the greenest solution of all!

[gmd]

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ddd -
Regardless, if a person can't survive off of $75k+/yr VERY comfortably, WITH a decent chunk of change left over every month, then you're not looking to just "provide for the family".

I am really not a materialistic person. If anything in some respects I am the opposite. Living in S.California on the amt you show above and raising 3 kids does not leave any kind of decent chunk in the bank. Maybe some indecent change at best. I guess I need to take up pimpin to make some chunk to put away.

[KanadaHye]

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ddd - I think you're missing the point. For starters, your example is erroneous because neither of the jobs you listed is really what is considered working with kids. I highly doubt that throwing food on a plate, or fixing teeth for a living is what they have in mind. Someone who likes to work with kids is either going to be a youth social worker, or a teacher, or a day care attendant, or a babysitter, etc. Something involved with directly interaction with kids, or impacting their lives on a day-to-day basis. IF they don't mind doing ANY of those jobs, than I can understand exploring the best field financially. But to jump from that, to your example of becoming an orthodontist because you like "working with kids" is beyond a far stretch since the profession itself really has nothing to do with working with kids.

Secondly, the Armenians I speak of are not looking to merely "provide for their family". This has nothing to do with being responsible, or any other psuedo-noble cause you want to attribute. I'm talking about the Armenians that want to "make bank". Siggie said earlier in this thread that $75k - $100k/yr isn't considered bank. Perhaps not (though that's subjective). Regardless, if a person can't survive off of $75k+/yr VERY comfortably, WITH a decent chunk of change left over every month, then you're not looking to just "provide for the family". You're looking to spend on over the top luxuries in life. These people want to be able to blow $100 per person at some obscenely expensive restaurant, even though it's all going to end up in the same place as a meal from Chili's in a few hours (the toilet). They want to afford the high end Beamers, or drive a giant SUV, even though there's only one or 2 people in it at a time. JCPenny, or Kohl's isn't good enough for their wardrobe, they need to buy $2k suits, $200 dress shirts etc. from Nordstrom's (or even higher end stores), even though each one is going to be worn once or twice a month at most. There is absolutely NO purpose for wasting money on the above mentioned things other than spending lavishly for sheer status symbol and extravagance. Which brings us to the most important point you missed.

Armenians constantly talk about how it is our Christian faith that has held our identity together for centuries. It is how we got through the Ottoman curse, and how we survive and thrive no matter where we end up globally. Everything is centered around our Christian faith. However, it appears that Armenians are all talk. Are you all forgetting that Jesus told you to live humbly? That it is very difficult for the "well off" to make it passed heaven's gates? Are you forgetting that to desire worldly/material possessions is a sin? I get condemned by most Armenians for being atheist, but I assure you, from what I've witnessed, read and heard, I live my life far more "morally" (by Bible standards) than the VAST majority of Christians that I've meet. Armenians can talk the talk, but when it comes time to walk the walk by following all the rules established by their lord, they're quick to forget about their Christian faith, and become as petty, greedy and materialistic as their Western counterpart consumerist wh*re nations.

AMEN

Jesus was a carpenter... you want to provide your family, build a freaking roof over their head, throw a couple fish and a loaf of bread on the table. Armenians are starting to remind me of the sevs in the ghetto who drive beamers/mercedes and park it on the lawn of their crack house. And lets face it, the only reason most can afford to do so is because of daddy's money or you're 30 something and still live at home. Not that there is anything wrong with living at home(preserves culture and identity) but, blowing all of your money on your designer clothes and beemers will never get you anywhere in life let alone give you the ability to provide for your family. If 75K-100K isn't considered bank then everyone better start learning how to rob banks because it's not easy to make that kind of money legitimitely anymore. Oh yeah, might even be to late to rob banks because they are even going bankrupt these days.

[KanadaHye]

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The real money is in human trafficing/sex trade... arms/drug dealing. But if you don't have your hand in the crooked money pot and want to make legitimate money then buckle down for the ride because pimping yourself out isn't easy. The future will be in the green/alternate energy fields. You can always find a decent job working in a nuclear power plant like Homer Simpson and run the risk of growing an extra limb or glowing in the dark

[Crimson Glow]

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ddd - I think you're missing the point. For starters, your example is erroneous because neither of the jobs you listed is really what is considered working with kids. I highly doubt that throwing food on a plate, or fixing teeth for a living is what they have in mind. Someone who likes to work with kids is either going to be a youth social worker, or a teacher, or a day care attendant, or a babysitter, etc. Something involved with directly interaction with kids, or impacting their lives on a day-to-day basis. IF they don't mind doing ANY of those jobs, than I can understand exploring the best field financially. But to jump from that, to your example of becoming an orthodontist because you like "working with kids" is beyond a far stretch since the profession itself really has nothing to do with working with kids.

Secondly, the Armenians I speak of are not looking to merely "provide for their family". This has nothing to do with being responsible, or any other psuedo-noble cause you want to attribute. I'm talking about the Armenians that want to "make bank". Siggie said earlier in this thread that $75k - $100k/yr isn't considered bank. Perhaps not (though that's subjective). Regardless, if a person can't survive off of $75k+/yr VERY comfortably, WITH a decent chunk of change left over every month, then you're not looking to just "provide for the family". You're looking to spend on over the top luxuries in life. These people want to be able to blow $100 per person at some obscenely expensive restaurant, even though it's all going to end up in the same place as a meal from Chili's in a few hours (the toilet). They want to afford the high end Beamers, or drive a giant SUV, even though there's only one or 2 people in it at a time. JCPenny, or Kohl's isn't good enough for their wardrobe, they need to buy $2k suits, $200 dress shirts etc. from Nordstrom's (or even higher end stores), even though each one is going to be worn once or twice a month at most. There is absolutely NO purpose for wasting money on the above mentioned things other than spending lavishly for sheer status symbol and extravagance. Which brings us to the most important point you missed.

Armenians constantly talk about how it is our Christian faith that has held our identity together for centuries. It is how we got through the Ottoman curse, and how we survive and thrive no matter where we end up globally. Everything is centered around our Christian faith. However, it appears that Armenians are all talk. Are you all forgetting that Jesus told you to live humbly? That it is very difficult for the "well off" to make it passed heaven's gates? Are you forgetting that to desire worldly/material possessions is a sin? I get condemned by most Armenians for being atheist, but I assure you, from what I've witnessed, read and heard, I live my life far more "morally" (by Bible standards) than the VAST majority of Christians that I've meet. Armenians can talk the talk, but when it comes time to walk the walk by following all the rules established by their lord, they're quick to forget about their Christian faith, and become as petty, greedy and materialistic as their Western counterpart consumerist wh*re nations.

[gmd]

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Yeah. Pimping has its perks.

Maybe Pepsi can work for you.

[ddd]

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with scoping out a field before committing years of education and experience in order to be able to provide for yourself and your family in the future. Ofcourse everyone should do what they love, but when you have responsibilities and a family to provide for, you should not only do what you love, but also be smart about it and make some money along the way. For example, for someone that loves working with kids....they can either go be an elementary school cafeteria worker or an orthodontist. Sure, these are extremes, and the cafeteria worker may develop a new method of managing the food which revolutionizes the industry and ends up making millions of dollars, but generally speaking, orthodontists will be better off financially. And in both cases, you'll be doing what you love...working with kids.

Wanting to make money (be a good provider for your family) is about as basic as instincts get and Armenians are generally good providers (especially the males when it comes to the level of sacrifice I've seen some go through in order to allow their sons or daughters to be able to attend that higher level private school, live in the safer part of town, etc) so asking "when we became so obsessed with money"...well....I would say ever since "money" became the medium which provided for a good home with food on the table.

[One-Way]

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Moreover, wtf is the matter with Armenians? When did we become so obsessed with money and material possessions? For a culture that is so tied to it's Christian faith, it's amazing that the main concern for so many Armenians seems to be making sure they get into a career that makes a fortune. It doesn't matter if you LIKE the profession, or not. All that matters is the bottom line. How big will my checks be each week? Oh, and then don't forget that you are apparently obligated to flaunt the fact that you make a fortune by driving Beamers and Mercedes. Did all you good, faithful Christians forget you're going to Hell for putting such importance on worldly possessions?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Glad I'm not alone in this.