The truth bout Persians and Iran

[Parskahay]

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i only trust very good sources like wikipedia read about ketrevan
yes its liberation georgia was going to be persiasn forever so persiasn must live there
here is my source

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketevan_of_Kakheti

show me a international and good source like this
so this is a better way you think?
americans killed 99% of natives there

[Army]

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Im really pissed. That Persian kid claims that Persian's killed Ketevan 'because of treason'.. He even can not understand his own writings. Here is the truth as a summary:

While Kakheti was still an independent kingdom; Persians found a puppet-king for themselves and they killed the legal king.. Ketevan stood against the Persian influence -which came by blood- however she was powerless.. then made an agreement with the Persian masters of the new 'king'... Anyway, after a few years, Acems got bored -and scared of the risk of an uprising against their servant king- and brang her by force, after a while killed her.

[KanadaHye]

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You do very well on blaming Turks for settling in Anatolia... so even if you are right in that Persian number (which you are not) is not sending half million of Persians into another state "invading"? Is that the Persian way of peace and friendship?

There are no invasions, just liberations

[Army]

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In 1614, sent by Teimuraz as a negotiator to Abbas I, Ketevan effectively surrendered herself as an honorary hostage in a failed attempt to prevent Kakheti from being attacked by the Iranian armies. She was held in Shiraz for several years until Abbas I, in an act of revenge for the recalcitrance of Teimuraz, ordered the queen to renounce Christianity, and upon her refusal, had her tortured to death with red-hot pincers

Persian hospitality. And you are supporting this act. What kind of propaganda did they give you there?

actually around 500.000 persian killed in georgia and then their bodies torned apart and their bodies fed the animals in georgia

Can you count??

What the xxxx was 500.000 Persians doing in Georgia? How does people like so much to exaggrate the numbers. LOL at 500.000!!! Who counted them? Do you really think that 500.000 Persians died in Georgia is 'realistic'?

You do very well on blaming Turks for settling in Anatolia... so even if you are right in that Persian number (which you are not) Is not sending half million of Persians into another state "invading"? Is that the Persian way of peace and friendship?

BTW even if all three Georgian kingdoms were united, it'd take decades to find 500.000 Persians, and killing them, then torning them apart, finding wild animal herds which could eat a half million of humans, and at the end throwing the Persian parts to the wild animals..

However what did happen to Georgia in wars against Persia is real: They razed the whole country, those 'gentle' soldier who did not (!) harm Armenian women and elders (you said that way) completely destroyed that small kingdom several times in 560, 1225, fall of Tiflis in 1226, another total destruction in 1795, countless Russo-Persian battles of 18th and 19th centuries... What the heck those mountain people were searching for near Black Sea? They were not coming to settle or living together. They were not conquerors, they were looters. And you call Persians as peace lovers.

They only like Armenians because they earn benefit from it.

[Parskahay]

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nothing is without reason the answer to the betreyal
Ketevan was born to Prince Ashotan of Mukhrani (Bagrationi) and married Prince David of Kakheti, the future David I, king of Kakheti from 1601 to 1602. After David’s death, Ketevan engaged in religious building and charity. However, when David’s brother Constantine I killed his reigning father, Alexander II, and usurped the crown with the Safavid Iranian support in 1605, Ketevan rallied the Kakhetian nobles against the patricide and routed Constantine’s loyal force. After the uprising, she negotiated with Shah Abbas I of Iran to confirm her underage son, Teimuraz I, as king of Kakheti, while she assumed the function of a regent.

In 1614, sent by Teimuraz as a negotiator to Abbas I, Ketevan effectively surrendered herself as an honorary hostage in a failed attempt to prevent Kakheti from being attacked by the Iranian armies. She was held in Shiraz for several years until Abbas I, in an act of revenge for the recalcitrance of Teimuraz, ordered the queen to renounce Christianity, and upon her refusal, had her tortured to death with red-hot pincers in 1624
search the persian genocide in georgia and thats the friendly face of georgians you mentioned
actually around 500.000 persian killed in georgia and then their bodies torned apart and their bodies fed the animals in georgia

[Army]

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haha an other failure by you army
till 1790 georgia was under control of persia which was a safe occupation then they started rebelion and KILLED ALL PERSIANS IN GEORGIA AND THE LEADER OF GEORGIA WHICH WAS CHOSEN BY NADER SHAH then the battle of Krtsanisi was begun between qajar kingdom of iran and georgia.qajar was weakest and the worst kingdom of iran so you can expect killing from them but in the answer of kills done in georgia
georgian people torn the dead bodies of persians apart and gave them to their animals
The Battle of Krtsanisi was fought between Persian and Georgian armies at the place of Krtsanisi near Tbilisi, Georgia, from September 8 to September 11, 1795, as part of the war intended by the Persian ruler Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar as a reprisal for King Heraclius II of Georgia’s alliance with the Russian Empire.[1] The battle resulted in the defeat of Georgians and complete destruction of their capital Tbilisi.

"comple destruction of their capital Tbilisi"

That must be the friendly face of Persians you've mentioned.

However, you've just selected the wrong battle, sorry *iiiiiiin error*. Queen Ketevan was killed in 1620s, in Shiraz.

Do you know where is Shiraz? Sure you do. Do you know what was she doing in that Persian city, thousands of kilometres away from Georgia?

She was taken by Persians to there to the Shah and she was tortured to death just because she did not convert into Shia.

**Blink!!! That was the right answer.**

[Parskahay]

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Do you know what did Persians do to Georgia? Ten of thousands of villagers were massacred. They even killed the Queen Ketevan by torturing her. THE QUEEN of a country! Can you show me an example of an Ottoman Sultan killing a king or a queen? Persians were not angels kid, they were bloody barbarians.

haha an other failure by you army
till 1790 georgia was under control of persia which was a safe occupation then they started rebelion and KILLED ALL PERSIANS IN GEORGIA AND THE LEADER OF GEORGIA WHICH WAS CHOSEN BY NADER SHAH then the battle of Krtsanisi was begun between qajar kingdom of iran and georgia.qajar was weakest and the worst kingdom of iran so you can expect killing from them but in the answer of kills done in georgia
georgian people torn the dead bodies of persians apart and gave them to their animals
The Battle of Krtsanisi was fought between Persian and Georgian armies at the place of Krtsanisi near Tbilisi, Georgia, from September 8 to September 11, 1795, as part of the war intended by the Persian ruler Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar as a reprisal for King Heraclius II of Georgia’s alliance with the Russian Empire.[1] The battle resulted in the defeat of Georgians and complete destruction of their capital Tbilisi.

[Army]

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Do you know what did Persians do to Georgia? Ten of thousands of villagers were massacred. They even killed the Queen Ketevan by torturing her. THE QUEEN of a country! Can you show me an example of an Ottoman Sultan killing a king or a queen? Persians were not angels kid, they were bloody barbarians.

[Parskahay]

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yes but then ottoman empire begin to lost and cease fire happened the reason of irans lose at first was this: ottomans had guns and cannons more than iranians but after iranians get those weapons too they crushed ottomans like a wolf do on sheeps which was before armenian genocide
yes i know that from guiness and other record places and books of history the most safe occupiers of history are persians they only increase their borders if they did the act of genocide on all lands which they captured now iran was biggest country casue they owned afghanistan pakistan india armenia turkey and azerbaijan so if they tired to "persianfy" the lands they occupied like ottoman empire did "turkify" the land so no further resistance they gonna face
everyone knows this and you can even question this fact

[Army]

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huh? Ottomans fough with Persians for many times. They even occupied Tabriz for 2 or 3 times. Even I do know that.

And that Persian invasion was over 1000 years ago. How can you be sure that "only soldiers" died? You are too emotional.