Religion (split from Q&A)

[KanadaHye]

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I agree with you, and I'm curious what parts of judaism you are referring to?
Also, I think zionism uses judaism for its benefit when it fits but zionism is an inherently secular movement and there have been and are clashes between zionist and ultra orthodox joos.

Zionism hides behind the skirt of Judaism. All J3ws are not Zionists and all Zionists are not J3ws. J3ws need not be persecuted, that just builds a stronger case for Zionists. However, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be made aware of the relationship.

[Haykakan]

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Zionism hides behind the skirt of Judaism. All J3ws are not Zionists and all Zionists are not J3ws.

I agree with this statement however it is worth noting that by far most xxxs are zionists.

[Armanen]

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It's telling that a number of the young turks were zionists themselves, not least because they were ethnic joos. Likewise, the same forces that sponsored the zionists also did the same with the bolsheviks.

[KanadaHye]

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It's telling that a number of the young turks were zionists themselves, not least because they were ethnic joos. Likewise, the same forces that sponsored the zionists also did the same with the bolsheviks.

After the fall of the USSR, many migrated to North America.... didn't take them too long to make a mess of things here either.

[Muhaha]

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When people see God in their institutions and their territory, religion and politics come alive as one. The more homogenous a society's belief, the more potent its force, and the longer it can be held by a single dynasty.

Well, I'd say homogeneity leads to a lack of competition, a lack of competition leads to a lack of the need for evolution, the absence of evolution leads to the demise of the entity in question.

[Armanen]

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Well, I'd say homogeneity leads to a lack of competition, a lack of competition leads to a lack of the need for evolution, the absence of evolution leads to the demise of the entity in question.

If a group has one mission it will achieve it sooner rather than if there are multiple ones. When it comes to religion and the stability within a country or ethnic group, it is more stable to have one dominant religion rather than many. There are a number of cases where this is true.

[Muhaha]

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If a group has one mission it will achieve it sooner rather than if there are multiple ones. When it comes to religion and the stability within a country or ethnic group, it is more stable to have one dominant religion rather than many. There are a number of cases where this is true.

Of course unity is good when you have a clear cut objective, goal, or mission. I guess the best way to put it is....Unity is good in short bursts.

I'm not dismissing that, what I'm dismissing is the need to have a perpetually unified and philosophically or ideologically homogeneous group of people. Advocating homogeneity as a way of life is what I'm referring to.

[yerazhishda]

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If a group has one mission it will achieve it sooner rather than if there are multiple ones. When it comes to religion and the stability within a country or ethnic group, it is more stable to have one dominant religion rather than many. There are a number of cases where this is true.

Armanen jan, I understand your point of view but I'd be careful of analyzing religion from a purely practical point of view. We shouldn't accept a religion because it brings us together - although that is a good side effect - we should accept a religion (Christianity) based on the truths held within.

[Haykakan]

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If your going to accept religion based on thr truth held within then no one would accept religion.

[Armanen]

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Armanen jan, I understand your point of view but I'd be careful of analyzing religion from a purely practical point of view. We shouldn't accept a religion because it brings us together - although that is a good side effect - we should accept a religion (Christianity) based on the truths held within.

I wasn't saying that is the only reason, just that unity is good. I would rather see a monoethnic country, with one dominant religion than a poly ethnic and religious one. We have seen how easy it is to break up nations along ethnic and religious lines.


And Haykakan: There may not be Truths for you in religion or spirituality, but there are for others. If you want people to respect your thoughts, then respect theirs.