My interesting philosophy...

[jgk3]

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It's true, this conversation, and "everything else" (including everything we find good or bad, religions, parents, etc...) is actually part of God if you define God as the source of all things!

[Tali]

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and to think, that idea spawned from Buddhism and the idea of "Oneness"

[KanadaHye]

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Ideas that are your own are venturing out to subject yourself as unbiasedly as you can to ther religious beliefs and see if you have the capacity for faith in that religion or not. Most people tend to just decide if they believe in their parents' religion or not, and base their decision as such.

That's because your parents instill in you whatever values they were taught depending on their own background. Some tend to rebel because they find it too difficult to conserve those values or don't see a benefit.

Either way, we shouldn't be ignorant of other cultures or religions, it's up to us to educate ourselves. It would be a rather boring world if we were all the same.

I think of God as this intelligent being that planted the seed and it's up to us to take the world where we want it to go. Instead society often seems to attribute things to God when in fact we have been given the intelligence to control and govern ourselves. Government is not God, the only reason they own us is because of the atrocities that were committed in the past (and still occurring in many parts of the world today) taking away our rights to land and true freedom. When we learn to tolerate and respect each other and share everything that God has given to us, then and only then will we realize just what a wonderful world it really is. However, it seems that we have short term memories when it comes to history and we seem to have a greater ability for evil than good. It's also easier to strive for evil and reach it than to aim for perfection since we know it's impossible.

[Odar]

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Then the various religions/sects themselves should stop claiming each one of them to be the ONLY way to interpret God's "will". Enlightened individuals have understood that throughout the ages but the majority of people, even when they're not particularly devout, can still be easily manipulated into a "us vs. them" mindset by the religious élites (written right after watching the movie "Agorà").

[jgk3]

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we're victims of the same basic human syndrome of us vs them too, look how we're singling out organized religion.

[KanadaHye]

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So the question remains, can the world exist without conflict?

[jgk3]

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So the question remains, can the world exist without conflict?

I dunno, if I feel like mowing my lawn, and there are sentient insects crawling in it happily eating and following eachother...

[Odar]

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I don't think so - basically for the same reasons why we cannot attain perfection - although as humans we should all strive to reduce "improductive" conflict. I say improductive for the only struggle we should fight is against ignorance and prejudice, within us as well as without.

I dunno, if I feel like mowing my lawn, and there are sentient insects crawling in it happily eating and following eachother...

You can always apologize to the poor insects instead of denying

[Tali]

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Government is not God, the only reason they own us is because of the atrocities that were committed in the past (and still occurring in many parts of the world today) taking away our rights to land and true freedom. When we learn to tolerate and respect each other and share everything that God has given to us, then and only then will we realize just what a wonderful world it really is.

Actually, historically speaking, if you start looking at the earliest signs of government... people willingly gave up their 'rights' to land and 'true freedom'. weird, right? here we are today, clamoring for it, when once upon a time -- we had it. now we're just born into it. Why did people give it up? b/c they wanted a better, organized world. no more "survival of the fittest" - no more losing our homes b/c we're weaker, or having endless feuds. we wanted clear, concise rules and consequences. but with that, we had to lose some things in order to gain. the main problem nowadays is: how FAR should government go in upholding what we asked of it?

Then the various religions/sects themselves should stop claiming each one of them to be the ONLY way to interpret God's "will".

well, that statement is exactly what i'm referring to. there are many (even major) religions that are not about your God's will in any variance-- as there are far more nonbelievers than believers in his existence anyway. even those that are in agreement, differ.

we're victims of the same basic human syndrome of us vs them too, look how we're singling out organized religion.

for once, and probably one of the very few times, i'll have to disagree with you. please note: my philosophy is not at all an organized religion... yet i have followers see why how carefully i stay away from the word "religion"?

So the question remains, can the world exist without conflict?

Nope. To have resolution, you need conflict. Much alike how you need sorrow to know happiness, hate to know love. it's always paired - this idea of balance; "give and take."

[jgk3]

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Actually, historically speaking, if you start looking at the earliest signs of government... people willingly gave up their 'rights' to land and 'true freedom'. weird, right? here we are today, clamoring for it, when once upon a time -- we had it. now we're just born into it. Why did people give it up? b/c they wanted a better, organized world. no more "survival of the fittest" - no more losing our homes b/c we're weaker, or having endless feuds. we wanted clear, concise rules and consequences. but with that, we had to lose some things in order to gain. the main problem nowadays is: how FAR should government go in upholding what we asked of it?

You know, every time I complain in my house about lack of freedom, and not being able to live with the land, my mom says, "Go! No one's stopping you! If you want land, go to it!" And of course, I don't go to it, because I don't have the guts to leave my attachment to society :P I do want to be free with the land, but I can't make a rigid break from my current life, and the steps I'm taking towards living free with the land are in queue with the same list of other social responsibilities I've chosen to live with, though sometimes complain about.

If enough people did have the guts, and starting doing things the government didn't like, at some people it would create a large conflict, which as you said would lead to a resolution. But if we don't have the guts, there is no resolution to the things we complain about!

for once, and probably one of the very few times, i'll have to disagree with you. please note: my philosophy is not at all an organized religion... yet i have followers see why how carefully i stay away from the word "religion"?

I don't understand, I know your philosophy is not an organized religion, I'm saying that by contrasting ourselves from organized religion, we are engaging in this us (non-organized religion people) vs. them (organized religion). Is that what you disagree on?

Nope. To have resolution, you need conflict. Much alike how you need sorrow to know happiness, hate to know love. it's always paired - this idea of balance; "give and take."

I agree

You can always apologize to the poor insects instead of denying

Sounds a lot like Canada's Indian Affairs policy! Mow the grass whenever it needs to be cut and pull out troublesome weeds, and make a ritualistic "sorry"!