Armenian lesbians/gays

[Flamenkita]

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Computers and Internets ... by the time the stuff ends up in books it's way outdated anyway

Ah, techies!

[KanadaHye]

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Or, he's just really secure in his manhood.

No safer place than your purse

K, I'm done with this one... Next feminist please.

[Mos]

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No safer place than your purse

K, I'm done with this one... Next feminist please.

haha

[Flamenkita]

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No safer place than your purse

K, I'm done with this one... Next feminist please.

Actually, I don't carry a purse. As a student, I had backpacks or enormous canvas totes. With the babies, I had a huge diaper bag. And now, it's a little wallet with the essentials. I don't like baggage. And rather than spend thousands of dollars on designer handbags as some women do, I prefer to put that money into my kids' education funds. I feel I have no one to impress with material stuff. It feels very liberating.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

Meanwhile that is what happens in 4 year liberal art colleges, and in graduate programs in things other than math, some hard sciences, engineering, etc. If a man hasn't bothered to immerse himself into literature and the humanities, he will have very little in common with a woman who has a degree in political science, or art history, or history, or psychology, or comparative literature. It's a shame, really.

Are liberal art colleges really schools? Do people really get jobs with liberal art degrees? There is a slogan that we often used in University, "Friends don't let friends take arts".

You end up with men who don't have the level of education of the women, and who, as a result, have not had the opportunity to question the beliefs they inherited from their families.

I know many Armenian women who are educated, self-sufficient, independent and who would like to meet Armenian men with whom to make a life.

They like to think they are all these things when in fact they usually squandered their time in school, ran up some debt and got brainwashed during the process.

What happens is that, after dating several, they realize they have two choices. Either stay single forever or marry out. Men, by a similar token, end up either marrying women younger than themselves, or women who come from the "old country", or women who are not Armenian.

My grandfather on my father's side was 20 yrs older than my grandmother and she passed away before he did. You might say that it's "old fashioned" but biologically a woman ages faster than a man. You can gripe and complain about it but that's reality.

There is still this crazy deluded notion in circulation that, with enough money a man can have any woman he wants.

This deluded notion is universal. It's just that Armenian women are usually so spoiled that they have never seen or experienced poverty since they all moved from poorer parts of the world to wealthier ones.

Armenian men are just as much victims of the system as women are. It's like the tea party folks: They are fighting to the death for causes that are contrary to their own best interest.

Armenian men are victims of having more difficulty integrating into their new surroundings. If you're into humanities, you should read up on how girls can assimilate/integrate into a new culture much better than boys because they are much better at adapting to the social aspects of life. Girls can learn languages quicker as well. What I find rather interesting is your views haven't changed even though you gave birth to a boy. Probably got the poor fella circumcised too.

[Flamenkita]

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Nope. Wrong there. My son is about as intact as they come. We don't even allow the pediatrician to retract his foreskin. There are differences between my kids, each has strengths and weaknesses. My philosophy wrt gender is "different but equal".

[Flamenkita]

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So, reading this last post of yours, what I'm getting is that education is useless, that you are deeply resentful of Armenian women (someone must have screwed you over real good), and that books and art are a waste of time and energy, unless they are car manuals. Charming!

[Flamenkita]

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How are critical thinking and brainwashing connected? One is brainwashed into being a critical thinker? Or do you see any effort by anyone to escape the unreasonable demands of clan loyalty as brainwashing?

[Flamenkita]

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Some define intelligence as the ease with which an individual adapts to novel situations. In this sense, human females seem to be more intelligent. But a lot of other things play into how well an individual fares in a new land. An optimistic outlook, resourcefulness, attractiveness...

My daughter is certainly more socially aware and sensitive than my son is, but that isn't always to her advantage. Whereas my son is not really fazed when someone declines an invitation to play, it takes my daughter a lot more time to recover from perceived slights. Also, both my kids are identified as gifted learners and already that sets them apart from others in many ways. Children who are gifted have some real challenges growing up, and that is why I have decided to be home with them during their formative years. It's not easy to connect with other 6 year olds when your conversation openers have to do with the periodic table and Greek mythology.

[Flamenkita]

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Here is something you may not know about liberal arts education, or about the main point of going to college to begin with: The main point of going to college is threefold 1) To learn to think critically and abstractly; and 2) To learn to write clearly about abstract ideas; and 3) To learn to engage in scholarly debate.

Not all fields of study emphasize all three equally, but the core aims are always present. The point of a liberal arts college is to prepare a student for further, more specialized study, and this doesn't usually mesh with the aspirations of first generation immigrants whose children are the first generation entering college, and who are expected to take up study that will lead to a profession (medicine, engineering, business administration, and such), and a certain amount of prestige that, for people from the Near East, is always connected with one's earning potential and material wealth. This pressure falls more heavily on men than on women, and lots of men feel entitled to certain recognition and status for their sacrifices and efforts.

Most liberal arts colleges have very strong preprofessional programs, but generally speaking, no one who graduates is going to enter a lucrative profession. This is a big problem for immigrants from certain parts of the world.

But recall what I said earlier. In America, class mobility is determined not only by one's profession and earning capacity, but by one's command and sophistication in the English language. People who avoid liberal arts colleges are not getting this important piece of the education puzzle, and their upward mobility is hindered as a result. They may be doctors and engineers, but they still express themselves like yahoos who misspell words and have limited vocabulary.

In my own case, I had the fortune of meeting and marrying an Armenian man who went to a liberal arts college and double majored in English and Biochemistry. He is now a physician, but can also converse on art, literature, history, music, culture... And our lives are that much more interesting and richer for it, and our kids are growing up in an environment that supports all their curiosity.