Muslim

[violette829]

Violette: You act as if one who does not subscribe to a religion has no concept of right and wrong. That is arrogant and stupid.

Dusken: I was asking loseyourname those questions. Notice I quoted his statement before asking. This means that you need not respond. But, thank you anyway for those lovely words. I shall write them on the toilet paper, which will be used to wipe my asss in a minute. Thank you.

[violette829]

The one thing I have learned from these forums is that people are different. Unless we have a "universal" religion, we will NEVER EVER be able to put this debate to rest. All of these religions makes sense to someone in the world. I just choose to go with the one that makes sense to me, which is Christianity. I also chose to follow the guidelines that benefit me, which come from the Holy Bible. It's all simple really.

[loseyourname]

Why is it the right thing to do and how do you know what's right or wrong? What do you base these on?

Through the use of reason and through moral intuition. Not because some book that contradicts itself several thousand times told me so.

[violette829]

Through the use of reason and through moral intuition. Not because some book that contradicts itself several thousand times told me so.

Where did you get this moral intuition?

[loseyourname]

I'm not sure, but perhaps through evolution. Heck, perhaps from God. I honestly don't know. You can read Biophilia by Edward O. Wilson if you want an explanation of the biological stance, or perhaps On Human Nature.

[violette829]

I'm not sure, but perhaps through evolution. Heck, perhaps from God. I honestly don't know. You can read Biophilia by Edward O. Wilson if you want an explanation of the biological stance, or perhaps On Human Nature.

Cool..thanks Loseyour.

[DvlzAdvocate]

Humans are prone to praise something bigger than them, more powerful then them, it is in their nature. (Thank goodness I'm not human) Thus the explanation for why humans believe in a God. Humans are born followers.

[remaining]

a keyword search on a translation online

You can do a keyword search (ie Jesus) on an online text of the translation of the meaning of the Quran. We're in the age of the internet so it's way quicker than flipping through a book.

http://www.islamicity.com/Quransearch/action.lasso.asp?-database=Quran&-Table=tblMasterTranslit&-Response=Sreply1.asp&-Error=SReply1.asp&-MaxRecords=5&-token=English&-op=cn&English=Jesus&-sortorder=Ascend&-sortfield=CV&-Search

http://www.islamicity.com/Quransearch/action.lasso.asp?-database=Quran&-Table=tblMasterTranslit&-Response=Sreply1.asp&-Error=SReply1.asp&-MaxRecords=5&-token=English&-op=cn&English=Jesus&-sortorder=Ascend&-sortfield=CV&-Search

You can also do other quereies by replacing Jesus with other words like Mary, Gospel, Israel, Angel, Gabriel, Adam, Abraham, disbelieve, transgress, Kill, etc.

And related to the first post in this topic.
Muslims are not allowed to kill infidels or disbelievers just because they are disbelievers. If that was so then their prophet Muhammad and all those in his time would have done so but that isn't the case. They killed those that attacked them because of their faith. And as later in the centuries you have those that have taken it to the extremes which is considered transgression which is totally wrong. You can search the Quran.

You can also listen to the whole Quran recited in its complete original in mp3s
Reciter List
Imam/Reciter Shuraim of Mecca
Imam/Reciter Mishary

also a direct mp3 to a chapter titled Mary

http://quran.islamway.com/mishary1424/019.mp3

in winamp you can hit ctrl+l and paste to listen.

let me know what that sounds like.

-peace