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  • #21
    Re: hi!! symphatic friends

    Originally posted by Sip
    At least they don't pretend to be friendly.
    Yes, there not "sympathetic freinds"

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    • #22
      Re: hi!! symphatic friends

      Originally posted by Anahita
      Genocide deniers have a policically-imposed/learned severe mental illness. They are a sad, sad, people. I try not to hate them, though. Only a few are actually 'evil.' I think most are just ill. Education and love are the 'cure' for this illness, I think.
      This guy actually says it better than me...

      I have studied extensively about the Armenian-Turkish relations starting late 1400 to early 1920s. What I found through 1000s of books and letters written from Ottoman Empire of the American ambassador Henry morganthaw, secret British and German telegraphs and the famous xxxish historian franz Verfel, and thousands of photographs of massacred Armenians, that there indeed was a Ottoman government sponsored massacres against their Armenian subjects. I am not an Armenian, nor a symphatizer, but someone who studied extensively about this subject. No one in his right mind can deny the fact that a Genocide did not happen. Of course people who have biases against Armenians will forever deny this fact, I met some Europeans who have called Armenians ugly, 13th xxxish tribe and so on and so forth, but history will prove them wrong. The great nations of todays world need Turkey's assistance (NATO) and it's strategic location, but when their(Turkey's) usefullness to the Western world is done with, the truth will finally come out. Besides Turkey needs to come to terms with it's past, like Germany, accept the facts and move on to be a greater nation. Some Turks are realizing that there really was a Genocide against the Armenians, and some brave Turkish historians, writers and scholars are talking about this taboo subject. According to my Turkish friend, Mehmet Bal, Turks think that once Turkey accepts responcibility of the Genocide, Armenians will ask the return of their historic lands. This is not true at all. According to the Armenians, there is left not one single Armenian on those lands, therefore they are not interested one bit about these lands. Besides these lands are populated mostly by Kurds, who number about 17 million in Turkey alone. In any case, I hope that there still is a hope and a chance that Armenians and Turks will come together and live peacefully once these small issues are resolved. I wish both of these peoples good luck. marco craxi

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      • #23
        Re: hi!! symphatic friends

        Originally posted by crusader1492
        [quoted...] No one in his right mind can deny the fact that a Genocide did not happen.
        Talk about the wrong time to mess up on the double-negative
        Last edited by Sip; 04-15-2006, 10:32 PM.
        this post = teh win.

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        • #24
          Re: hi!! symphatic friends

          [QUOTE=Sip]
          Originally posted by crusader1492

          Talk about the wrong time to mess up on the double-negative
          I might be naive. I don't claim that I'm not naive. I TRY not to be, though. Who knows? You could be naive in some ways, also.

          But, in all fairness (crusader), I also didn't not read your post all that carefully...
          Last edited by Anahita; 04-15-2006, 11:26 PM.

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          • #25
            Re: hi!! symphatic friends

            [QUOTE=Anahita]
            Originally posted by Sip

            I might be naive. I don't claim that I'm not naive. I TRY not to be, though. Who knows? You could be naive in some ways, also.

            But, in all fairness (crusader), I also didn't not read your post all that carefully...
            Until you are fully able to make an intelligent statement on matters concerning the Genocide (which would require research, reading and study), I would let others do your thinking for you (preferably Armenians).

            I mean really...you don't even put in the effort to read a one paragraph post. What's with that?

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            • #26
              Re: hi!! symphatic friends

              Originally posted by Anahita
              Genocide deniers have a policically-imposed/learned severe mental illness. They are a sad, sad, people. I try not to hate them, though. Only a few are actually 'evil.' I think most are just ill. Education and love are the 'cure' for this illness, I think.
              Anahita,

              Attached is an interesting essay related to educated genocide deniers...please read it.
              Attached Files

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              • #27
                Re: hi!! symphatic friends

                Originally posted by crudaser1492
                This guy actually says it better than me...
                I was saying that you should cite the 'this guy' article if YOU didn't write it and pretend like some third party backs you up. I am a little senstive about citations for information (that's why I put so many links in my posts.) I don't write something pretending to cite, though.

                I will read the article you cited in the most recent post. I appreciate many contributions I've read by you. I'm having trouble with this thread, though.

                [Edit, Again, about citations. The quote just you gave "I might be naive..." was something I wrote. You posted that as something Sip said. I'm thinking Sip probably doesn't want my words to be quoted as his words... I might post a thread on posting and citations]
                Last edited by Anahita; 04-17-2006, 07:46 PM.

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                • #28
                  Re: hi!! symphatic friends

                  It's ok. I doubt too many people think I am naive ... especially when it comes to this topic
                  this post = teh win.

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                  • #29
                    Re: hi!! symphatic friends

                    Originally posted by Sip
                    It's ok. I doubt too many people think I am naive ... especially when it comes to this topic
                    I trust that is true (this meaning your position on genocide). Still, I'd guess that you wouldn't want what I say being attributed to you, sweetheart. I don't want my words/ideas confused with yours... that was my point.

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                    • #30
                      Re: hi!! symphatic friends

                      I appreciate your concern. But again, I HIGHLY doubt anyone would confuse your posts with mine. We are so opposite in how we think, it's not even funny (assuming I understand what you post since most of the time I have no clue what all the words/lyrics/etc mean).
                      this post = teh win.

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