Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

The issue of whether NKR is an independent state or a self-ruled territory of Armenia is still in dispute in Armenia. Some in Armenia want to give it back, some want it to be incorporated into Armenia and others want it to become a state.

Wtf are you talking about Artsakh has it's own president and goverment. And please name those who want to give away Artsakh does are traitors and need to be removed.

But, if these are native Armenian homelands, then how can it be an state independent of Armenia?

There are two Armenian states and if you have an Armenian pasport you can move freely between those two terretories.

The fate of NKR is as much to be determined by odars as it is by NKR leaders.

No, there are no Armenian troops protecting Artsakh. http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=20854

No, there is no humanitarian aid to NKR. http://www.anca.org/hill_staff/posit...rs.php?ppid=12

so there few soldiers from Armenia serving in Artsakh in the Artsakh military so what. And that humanitarian aid even Isreal is getting it.

If it wasn't for volunteer freedom fighters, there would likely be no NKR to speak of in the first place. These fighters came from places outside of NKR as much as they were NKR inhabitants. Some of them actually fought and led Armenian troops.

What are you two talking about?

Armenian and Karothegreat go to great lengths to prove that they are actually Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Fight on axis of stupidity, fight on!

What planet do you two incorrigible peasants reside on?

Are you going explaine to me how the war was fought and won. Look dude you don't know the xxxx about the war and what people went through. I was a little boy back then but I remeber the cold nights because there was no gas. Iran had cut of the gas, no electricity. Soldiers taken men to the front. What do you know about the war, nothing. Go and learn something about your country and then come back and discuss it here.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Two Armenian states? Hahahaha.... Really? What is your source for that conclusion? Is NKR an independent nation or an Armenian state?

There is one Armenia. With no Armenia there is no NKR. NKR is a self-ruled territory of Armenia, it is part and parcel of the nation.

Kocharian has hinted in the past of exchanging territories to resolve conflict with Azerbaijan. Didn't this cause freedom fighter Jrair Sefilyan to become defiant?

As for Russian forces protecting Armenian territories, are you stating that there is no Russian military base in Armenia? C'mon, you are going from dumb to dumber.

Think more, type less.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Two Armenian states? Hahahaha.... Really? What is your source for that conclusion? Is NKR an independent nation or an Armenian state?

There is one Armenia. With no Armenia there is no NKR. NKR is a self-ruled territory of Armenia, it is part and parcel of the nation.

Kocharian has hinted in the past of exchanging territories to resolve conflict with Azerbaijan. Didn't this cause freedom fighter Jrair Sefilyan to become defiant?

As for Russian forces protecting Armenian territories, are you stating that there is no Russian military base in Armenia? C'mon, you are going from dumb to dumber.

Think more, type less.

you're a complete retard who deosn't know anything about Armenia. There is no leader who dears to give back lands it would be his end. And NKR in a independet state but it's an Armenian state ethnical. Like jordan and egypt is etnical an arabian state. I advise you to go and learn about Armenia befor you make an greater fool of your self than you have done. really I never realised there could exist such Retarted Armenians like you.

And there is a Russian base in Armenia not Artsakh diffrent countries. go and learn geography study some history too and learn a little more about robert and his family before you make such claims

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/12/14/arrest-of-government-critic-on-coup-charges-prompts-concerns/

In 1997, Armenia and Russia signed a far-reaching friendship treaty, which calls for mutual assistance in the event of a military threat to either party and allows Russian border guards to patrol Armenia’s frontiers with Turkey and Iran. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian..._Military_Base

As NKR is an Armenian frontier, I suspect that they would be expected to be deployed there if shiat hit the fan. Also, as Armenian troops are in NKR (an self-ruling territory of Armenia), one would expect that the treaty would implore Russia to deploy troops in defense of Armenia.

When has NKR ever been at the negotiating table with World Powers to secure its future as a nation?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/12...mpts-concerns/

In 1997, Armenia and Russia signed a far-reaching friendship treaty, which calls for mutual assistance in the event of a military threat to either party and allows Russian border guards to patrol Armenia’s frontiers with Turkey and Iran. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian..._Military_Base

As NKR is an Armenian frontier, I suspect that they would be expected to be deployed there if shiat hit the fan. Also, as Armenian troops are in NKR (an self-ruling territory of Armenia), one would expect that the treaty would implore Russia to deploy troops in defense of Armenia.

When has NKR ever been at the negotiating table with World Powers to secure its future as a nation?

This is the last time I'm going to repeat myself Artsakh is an indapent country with it's own goverment and military what the xxxx do you want more from them to be independent please tell me. And I think it's even wrong to discuss the faith of Artsakh because there is only one option things don't change.

wiki can help you a long way some times.
The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) (Armenian: Լեռնային Ղարաբաղ Հանրապետություն Lernayin Gharabaghi Hanrapetut’yun), commonly called Nagorno-Karabakh, is a de facto independent republic located in the Nagorno-Karabakh region of South Caucasus, which is officially part of Azerbaijan, about 270 kilometers (170 miles) west of the Azerbaijani capital of Baku and very close to the border with Armenia.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Which nation formerly recognizes NKR as an independent nation with formally recognized borders? Which one? Tell me.

Under your theory of when things become so, I am unofficially the President of Freakyland, an independent nation in the United States. Noone has to recognize me, I have declared it and, thus, it is so.

Under your theory, Kurdistan is an independent nation.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Շան լագոդ լսելը: They are independent because they can defend there borders and they rule themself what the xxxx do they need more. And xxxxing retard I'm even wondering if you're Armenian really who can an Armenian be that stupid and not even know about it's own country.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

You know why Kurdistan is not an independent country because hey are nothing without the rest of Iraq. And if they dared to declare independce the region would eat the alive. Iran form one side Turkey form the other and syria from an other side. And does Kurdistan have an official army, or a president or a goverment. Can they defend their borders.

[Artsakh]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Karabakh has a standing army of 20,000 to 25,000 soldiers. It has been judged as the one of most efficient, battle-ready, and organized armies by a number of military analysts and academic institutions.

There is no second Armenian state. It is just politics to show the international community that it is an issue of "self determination" and not a territorial issue, etc.. The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic will, sooner or later, officially become the Artsakh provide of the Republic of Armenia.

In the meanwhile, a foreigner visiting Artsakh would need an NKR visa.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

This is the last time I'm going to repeat myself Artsakh is an indapent country with it's own goverment and military what the xxxx do you want more from them to be independent please tell me. And I think it's even wrong to discuss the faith of Artsakh because there is only one option things don't change.

wiki can help you a long way some times.
The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) (Armenian: Լեռնային Ղարաբաղ Հանրապետություն Lernayin Gharabaghi Hanrapetut’yun), commonly called Nagorno-Karabakh, is a de facto independent republic located in the Nagorno-Karabakh region of South Caucasus, which is officially part of Azerbaijan, about 270 kilometers (170 miles) west of the Azerbaijani capital of Baku and very close to the border with Armenia.

Ok, so now, you are saying that NKR is an independent Azerbaijani state. Make up your mind. And, don't rely solely on Wikipedia for information.

A nation within a hostile nation. Sheesh. You are killing me with this stuff.

Do you think Aliyev and Azerbaijan are concerned of the consequences from NKR troops, all 40k of them, if they attack NKR or the threat of all out war with Armenia supported by Russia?

Hmm. NKR population roughly 150k. Azerbaijan, population roughly 8.5 mil. Active Azeri forces roughly 100k, reserve of roughly 600k.