Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

[oslonor]

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On my last visit to Yerevan, I saw many Armenians just looking like the above pictures and holding vases walking in downtown Yerervan. They also had the same clothing as the picture. They were just walking up and down the street. I asked what are they doing?? They told me that Mr. "Armenian" from Hayastan Forum has told them to walk in downtown Yerevan just in case Oslonor comes to Yerevan.

P.S. Those figures on Apadana stairs do not represent real pictures. None of them look real. They are artistic work only!!!!!!

[oslonor]

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I'm discussing 'ancient' Persians in general and not the cherry picked ones that suits your twisted obsessions. Btw brainiak, how can you conclude that Persians with "Aryan origin" are the ones with the little noses? Please explain. Who says Aryans have little noses? Being Aryan is a 'cultural trait' and not a genetic trait. Having said that, Aryans were natives of the Armenian Highlands that later moved to what is today Iran. And the entire region in question has been known for its noses since the time of Hittites, Hurrians and the Assyrians. Regarding Turks: As a result of taking various peoples under their rule during the last 10-15 centuries, originally Asiatic Turks are now genetically similar to the various native populations of Asia Minor.

Please present your theory of Aryans. I like to know about it. Also post some pictures of "ARyans with Big Noses". I like to see how they look like. Please also explain what is "Ancient Persian in general" means????

We know that both Russians and Norwegians cherry pick all their pictures. Otherwise they are well known to have big noses!!!!!!

[Armenian]

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I am discussing Persians with ARyan origin.

I'm discussing 'ancient' Persians in general and not the cherry picked ones that suits your twisted obsessions. Btw brainiak, how can you conclude that Persians with "Aryan origin" are the ones with the little noses? Please explain. Who says Aryans have little noses? Being Aryan is a 'cultural trait' and not a genetic trait. Having said that, Aryans were natives of the Armenian Highlands that later moved to what is today Iran. And the entire region in question has been known for its noses since the time of Hittites, Hurrians and the Assyrians. Regarding Turks: As a result of taking various peoples under their rule during the last 10-15 centuries, originally Asiatic Turks are now genetically similar to the various native populations of Asia Minor.

[jgk3]

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It's like, whatever we use to come to our logical conclusions, is heretical to oslonor, and vice versa...

[oslonor]

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Stupid, if that's your reasoning, has it ever dawned on you that perhaps the little nosed Persians you obsess so much over were actually not the real 'ethnic' Persians... Hey, Maybe they were one of the - "all kinds of people have adopted persian language and culutre"

Stupid, you are off by about a thousand years. There were no Azeris, no Turks, no Tatars, in the area during the time we are talking about - the classical period! What's more, Turanians being 'Asiatic' could not have had large or hooked noses. This particular trait was acquired by Turanians when they moved into Asia Minor.

I am discussing Persians with ARyan origin. Those are the links to Parthians and ancient Persian history. It seems you are not familiar with the region. As far as we are concerned Azeris are Turks and are not natives of Iran. I am not familiar with your vocabulary about Azeri Turks. But I will tell you any attempt on your part to confuse Azeri Turks with the natives of Iran will fail and you will be seen as clown trying to help Azeri Turks to get a foothold in the region. Also nobody cares why Azeris have big noses. The reality is they do have big noses and they try to impose on other people.

[Armenian]

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Persian is not a race. All kinds of people have adopted persian language and culutre. I do not know which "Persians" you are talking about?????

Stupid, if that's your reasoning, has it ever dawned on you that perhaps the little nosed Persians you obsess so much over were actually not the real 'ethnic' Persians... Hey, Maybe they were one of the - "all kinds of people have adopted persian language and culutre"

Big Noses are salient feature of an Azeri Turk. Both Ahmadinejad and former President Khatami have big noses and both are Azeri Turks.

Stupid, you are off by about a thousand years. There were no Azeris, no Turks, no Tatars, in the area during the time we are talking about - the classical period! What's more, Turanians being 'Asiatic' could not have had large or hooked noses. This particular trait was acquired by Turanians when they moved into Asia Minor.

[oslonor]

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Persian Tribal Girl - South West Iran

[oslonor]

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Blood Groups

Here is the analysis of blood groups. The closest blood group to Persians are the Russians. It confirms the theories about the role of Persians in the formation of Slavic people.


different blood groups, each coloumn represents : O A B AB

Arabs 34 31 29 6
Armenians 31 50 13 6
Asian (in USA - General) 40 28 27 5
Austrians 36 44 13 6
Czechs 30 44 18 9
Danes 41 44 11 4
Dutch 45 43 9 3
English 47 42 9 3
Finns 34 41 18 7
French 43 47 7 3
Germans 41 43 11 5
Greeks 40 42 14 5
Gypsies (Hungary) 29 27 35 10
Hindus (Bombay) 32 29 28 11
Hungarians 36 43 16 5
Icelanders 56 32 10 3
Indians (India - General) 37 22 33 7
Indians (USA - General) 79 16 4 1
Irish 52 35 10 3
Italians (Milan) 46 41 11 3
Japanese 30 38 22 10
xxxs (Germany) 42 41 12 5
xxxs (Poland) 33 41 18 8
Kikuyu (Kenya) 60 19 20 1
Norwegians 39 50 8 4
Persians 38 33 22 7
Russians 33 36 23 8
Sudanese 62 16 21 0
Swedes 38 47 10 5
Swiss 40 50 7 3
Tartars 28 30 29 13
Turks 43 34 18 6
Ukranians 37 40 18 6
United Kingdom (GB) 47 42 8 3
USA (blacks) 49 27 20 4
USA (whites) 45 40 11 4

[oslonor]

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Btw, Ukrainians do somewhat have large noses (genetically dinaric?) although not beaked noses like the Persians.

Dinaric

Posting some random pictures is not anthropology. I have been to Ukraine. Ukrainians do not have big noses. This way you can prove the whole world have big noses. We are talking in terms of Phenotypes and not some random people on the street. Next you prove that Russians have big noses too!!!!!! Your pictures are just worthless.

[oslonor]

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Correct, only an "idiot" will think those genuine ancient coins are fakes. You, my obsessive friend, are an idiot

Yeah, there is a vast conspiracy in international academia to turn beautiful little petite Persian noses into big ugly hideous ones

Persian is not a race. All kinds of people have adopted persian language and culutre. I do not know which "Persians" you are talking about????? Big Noses are salient feature of an Azeri Turk. Both Ahmadinejad and former President Khatami have big noses and both are Azeri Turks.

Call me crazy... but could it be that during the past two thousand years the area in question has been saturated by Slavs and other Europeans? Therefore, could we assume that the ancient Persian admixture of the region is now diluted?

You are not aware who are the slavs. Slavs originate from Persians and Scythians among others. Parthians were actually urbanized Scythians who spoke middle persian language. The Sassanian dynasty was actually founded by Parthians.