Turkey and minorities

[Alexandros]

Re: Turkey and minorities

Well this is not a Georgian forum, why should I compare Georgia here? And yes, Georgia is in trouble with minorities...:/

@Alexandros

... Bulgaria exiled 250.000 Turks just in early 1990s. Turkey is not the only country around with such things.

Did anyone here mentioned Bulgaria in this thread?But now that you brought this up did you also know that when the communism fell in Bulgaria, the Bulgarian state allowed the Bulgarian-Turks to return to Bulgaria and more than half of those expelled Bulgarian-Turks have returned.

And I've always wondered what did happen to the Muslim majority of Creete in 1800s..

Most of the Cretan muslims were local Greeks who were forced to convert to Islam by the Turks.That`s what happened.

[Federate]

Re: Turkey and minorities

The silly motto is actually "one nation, one culture."

A myth, Armenia actually does not have any motto.

[Haykakan]

Re: Turkey and minorities

A myth, Armenia actually does not have any motto.

I think your right but it think if it did have a motto it would be survival.

[Armanen]

Re: Turkey and minorities

A myth, Armenia actually does not have any motto.

True. I wish it were the motto though, I like it and I have yet to hear one that I like better.

[TomServo]

Re: Turkey and minorities

A myth, Armenia actually does not have any motto.

Perhaps it hasn't been made official, but I remember it being used at state-sponsored cultural festivals.

[Army]

Re: Turkey and minorities

Bulgaria made all turks who would not change their surnames to Bulgarianized ones leave the country, and it was in the late 80s. One of the few times the turks got a taste of their own medicine, and after the horrors they had commited in the Balkans during their 500 year rule, I am not sorry for them.

As far as Crete goes, its turkish population was artificially placed there and it was artificially relocated when the island returned to its rightful owner

What should they change their surnames? Even Armenians in Turkey have their Armenian surnames.

And if you claim that those people deserved to be a target of ethnic cleanising just because of a former state which was collapsed 80 years ago; Ive no other words to say to you. You are same with some Turks telling that it was a right decision to exile Armenians to Syria. Shame on both of you.

As for Crete; 'artifical numbers' always mean 'tragedy'. Do you know what? Turks also say that Armenian numbers as a billion in 1900s is also ARTIFICIAL. How similiar you guys are.. It is interesting that fascist Turks and fascist Armenians are enemies while they are that much similar.

Most of the Cretan muslims were local Greeks who were forced to convert to Islam by the Turks.That`s what happened.

"Forced to convert"... I've heard that line a lot in Georgia, they claim every non-Christian in Georgia "were forced to convert into" Bulgarians claim that too. Thats bullxxxx. What had happened all those Turks on those lands.. I did not believe that Georgian fascist line, of course not gonna believe this xxxx again here.

[Haykakan]

Re: Turkey and minorities

Army i guess you dont know so i will tell you. The population of Armenians in turckey without Armenian names (due to fear of loss of life and privilages) far outnumbers the population of Armenians living in turckey with armenian names.

[Armanen]

Re: Turkey and minorities

What should they change their surnames? Even Armenians in Turkey have their Armenian surnames.

And if you claim that those people deserved to be a target of ethnic cleanising just because of a former state which was collapsed 80 years ago; Ive no other words to say to you. You are same with some Turks telling that it was a right decision to exile Armenians to Syria. Shame on both of you.

As for Crete; 'artifical numbers' always mean 'tragedy'. Do you know what? Turks also say that Armenian numbers as a billion in 1900s is also ARTIFICIAL. How similiar you guys are.. It is interesting that fascist Turks and fascist Armenians are enemies while they are that much similar.



"Forced to convert"... I've heard that line a lot in Georgia, they claim every non-Christian in Georgia "were forced to convert into" Bulgarians claim that too. Thats bullxxxx. What had happened all those Turks on those lands.. I did not believe that Georgian fascist line, of course not gonna believe this xxxx again here.

You don't need to respond to me in the future, I could care less. You made up your mind about Armenians long before you joined this forum, as was made evident by you trying to compare pan-turkism and turkish nationalism with Armenianism.

[Yakamoz]

Re: Turkey and minorities

Kurds are not a minority in Turkey.

[hipeter924]

Re: Turkey and minorities

I can summarise how much Turkey 'cares' for its minorities here:

Turkish Mayor supports Kurds = Jail, persecution and/or death
Turk becomes Christian = Jail, persecution and/or death
Turk recognises the Armenian Genocide = Jail, persecution and/or death

As for minorities themselves
Say you are a Kurd = Jail, persecution and/or death
Armenian and publicly recognise the genocide = Jail, persecution and/or death

In summary if you are a minority in Turkey your mere existence will cause you to be sent to jail or suffer persecution and/or death aka there no minority rights in Turkey unless you are Azeri which makes you a Turk.