Odious Turkish agenda

[KanadaHye]

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I find it funny that modern scientists blames the dark ages on Christianity and Christians blame it on Muslims. It seems to me that Muslims carried the world through the dark ages. You can almost see those times coming again due to the lack of interest in education around the western world.

[Merv]

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Prior to the ottoman invasion and conquest the kingdoms of eastern Europe were more advanced than those in the west. It is no coincidence that the Renaissance had its roots in the contact which Italian learned men had with the East, such as when Aurispa brought back a few hundred ancient manuscripts from Constantinople. Also the gothic style of architecture originated in Armenia. There is more, I'm sure someone with more historical knowledge than I could provide to illustrate my point.

Actually, I had never heard of the Armenian-Gothic link. Do you have some online sources I could read on this?

[Merv]

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I find it funny that modern scientists blames the dark ages on Christianity and Christians blame it on Muslims. It seems to me that Muslims carried the world through the dark ages. You can almost see those times coming again due to the lack of interest in education around the western world.

When did Muslims carry the world through the dark ages? That's a fanciful theory but in fact little supported. Most scholarship today is questioning the idea of "Dark Ages" in Europe in general, and the alleged exclusive Muslim incubation of ancient knowledge is also in dispute.

[KanadaHye]

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When did Muslims carry the world through the dark ages? That's a fanciful theory but in fact little supported. Most scholarship today is questioning the idea of "Dark Ages" in Europe in general, and the alleged exclusive Muslim incubation of ancient knowledge is also in dispute.

Well, of course it's in dispute... there is an anti-Islam campaign being funded if you haven't noticed.

[Armanen]

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Well, of course it's in dispute... there is an anti-Islam campaign being funded if you haven't noticed.

Again, science and learning were very much alive in the Byzantine Empire and Armenia. Europe and Christianity does not consist of western Europe. I am not saying you believe this but just wanting to point out the mistake that some historians make when focusing on the role of Christianity during the Middle Ages, which is that that focus way to much on the western half of Europe.

[KanadaHye]

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Again, science and learning were very much alive in the Byzantine Empire and Armenia. Europe and Christianity does not consist of western Europe. I am not saying you believe this but just wanting to point out the mistake that some historians make when focusing on the role of Christianity during the Middle Ages, which is that that focus way to much on the western half of Europe.

Good point.

[Armanen]

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Actually, I had never heard of the Armenian-Gothic link. Do you have some online sources I could read on this?

http://armenianhighland.com/index_light.html

Find the architecture link on the left side.

http://www.hyeetch.nareg.com.au/culture/arch_p2.html

http://www.azad-hye.net/article/article_view.asp?re=607aa31

http://www.virtualani.org/accounts/kinross.htm

[Palavra]

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Again, science and learning were very much alive in the Byzantine Empire and Armenia. Europe and Christianity does not consist of western Europe.

Infact, Europe was western europe. Now They are trying to expand with EU. Too bad, Most probably, It would fall at balkans.

or do you think, fourth crusade was a war between Europeans?

[Armanen]

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Infact, Europe was western europe. Now They are trying to expand with EU. Too bad, Most probably, It would fall at balkans.

or do you think, fourth crusade was a war between Europeans?

Well in backwards turkey, Europe may be taught as just 'western Europe'. However, Europe is first a political name then geographic, as it is connected with Asia and this should actually be known as Eurasia.