notes and comments

[arabaliozian]

Re: elegy

Ara i think you need to take your own advice and perhaps think more about what you write. The palastinians know how to win as much as the xxxs or anyone else knows how to win, their problem is that there is no way for them to win. These people have won so many arguments, just look at the UN resolutions condeming isreali settlements, violence, ...... The problem is that they lack power. The UN is controlled by money (a form of power) like everything else. The palastinians have no way to win. The UN allows war,robery,ethnic cleansing, deportation, blockade and all sorts of other abuses by Israel yet it attacks Iraq for taking control of one of its former provinces. The injustice is plainly there for all to see and only those who have the power can decide to change things. The palastinians are in a no win situation no matter what they do thus it has nothing to do with knowing how to win or lose. I get the feeling that you think anyone who disagrees with the zionist is prejidice but this is not true at all as a matter of fact zionism itself is a prejidice and racist concept. You argue against nationalism yet you defend zionism which is a perverted form of nationalismbased on racism. Contradicting yourself destroys the validity of your arguments. I realise that it is difficult to be open minded and fair and that we are all full of prejiudice but if you can seperate facts from fiction you will be on your way.

the world belongs to those who know how to take care of #1 and they have the power to do so.
the rest is propaganda.
armenians ought to know that by now better than anyone else -- except gypsies.
you want a friend, get a dog!
you want justice?
sharpen your teeth (i am quoting our Raffi).
sermons and speeches on truth and justice will get you nothing.

[KanadaHye]

Re: elegy

the world belongs to those who know how to take care of #1 and they have the power to do so.
the rest is propaganda.
armenians ought to know that by now better than anyone else -- except gypsies.
you want a friend, get a dog!
you want justice?
sharpen your teeth (i am quoting our Raffi).
sermons and speeches on truth and justice will get you nothing.

They have the power to do so because others allow them to do so in blind support. I may have been born a gentile slave but I'm determined to cut the ball and chain using the tools that I've been given... my teeth are for chewing. Sermons and speeches on truth and justice will get you attention. Attention will get you followers. Armenians ought to know that by now better than anyone else.

[Haykakan]

Re: elegy

the world belongs to those who know how to take care of #1 and they have the power to do so.
the rest is propaganda.
armenians ought to know that by now better than anyone else -- except gypsies.
you want a friend, get a dog!
you want justice?
sharpen your teeth (i am quoting our Raffi).
sermons and speeches on truth and justice will get you nothing.

I ciuldnt agree with you more there. I just wanted to point out that you made it sound like the palastinians were doing something wrong when in reality it matters not what they do.

[arabaliozian]

Re: elegy

Wednesday, September 30, 2009
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SCHOOLS OF PHILOSOPHY
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Speaking of the superficiality of the Byzantine Empire, Zarian remarks somewhere: “Not a single school of philosophy.” By contrast, America may be said to be bursting at the seams with schools of philosophy.
The first time I heard someone say, “Live and let live, that's my philosophy,” I thought he was being funny. It took me a while to realize that he was dead serious. If a cliché can be a philosophy, any moron can parade as a philosopher. Which reminds me of the fact that after the Americans liberated Greece and GIs were seen everywhere in Athens, a new phrase entered the Greek language: “Do you take me for an American?” Meaning, “Do you take me for a moron?”
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It must be just about the oldest trick in the world. You want to fool someone? Convince him he is so smart than no one can fool him.
You want to convince an entire race of men to behave like unspeakable barbarians? Convince them into believing they belong to a superior race.
That's why “Life is a xxxxx,” “Sh*t happens,” and “There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.” That is always why “There are more sorrows on earth than there are stars in heaven.” (Apik Avakian)
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Closer to home: Do you need a class of men to behave like neo-Stalinist crypto-commissars? Brainwash a bunch of bullies into thinking they have leadership qualities. That is also why our political leaders are no better than the scum of the earth.
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[arabaliozian]

Re: elegy

They have the power to do so because others allow them to do so in blind support. I may have been born a gentile slave but I'm determined to cut the ball and chain using the tools that I've been given... my teeth are for chewing. Sermons and speeches on truth and justice will get you attention. Attention will get you followers. Armenians ought to know that by now better than anyone else.

if i knew how to pray
i would go down on my knees this very minute
and pray that you succeed in your efforts!

[arabaliozian]

Re: elegy

I ciuldnt agree with you more there. I just wanted to point out that you made it sound like the palastinians were doing something wrong when in reality it matters not what they do.

it matters only in so far as they refuse to come to terms with reality and to accept their status as losers, which is what countless other people have done. if everyone behaved like Palestinians, we would have no peace on earth. war would be a constant condition and bullies who are no better than the scum of the earth would continue to parade as heroic leaders.

[Haykakan]

Re: elegy

it matters only in so far as they refuse to come to terms with reality and to accept their status as losers, which is what countless other people have done. if everyone behaved like Palestinians, we would have no peace on earth. war would be a constant condition and bullies who are no better than the scum of the earth would continue to parade as heroic leaders.

I don't think it is fair to expect anyone to accept a "loser" status. The palastinians are simply unwilling to roll-over and die like the zionists want them to and i can't blame them. I am all for the idea "if i am going to go down then i am taking a few of those bastards with me". Palastinian martyrs are heroes for their people, they represent the resistance to exactly the "loser" mentality you describe. No one is strong forever and the only constant is change so todays oppressor can be tommorows oppressed.

[arabaliozian]

Re: elegy

I don't think it is fair to expect anyone to accept a "loser" status. The palastinians are simply unwilling to roll-over and die like the zionists want them to and i can't blame them. I am all for the idea "if i am going to go down then i am taking a few of those bastards with me". Palastinian martyrs are heroes for their people, they represent the resistance to exactly the "loser" mentality you describe. No one is strong forever and the only constant is change so todays oppressor can be tommorows oppressed.

even the yanks accepted their status as losers in Vietnam.
what about us?
for 600 years we kissed ottoman ass.
after that for 60 years soviet ass.
and now, it's even worse...

Arafat is a hero?
his wife collected millions when he died.

[KanadaHye]

Re: elegy

I don't think it is fair to expect anyone to accept a "loser" status. The palastinians are simply unwilling to roll-over and die like the zionists want them to and i can't blame them. I am all for the idea "if i am going to go down then i am taking a few of those bastards with me". Palastinian martyrs are heroes for their people, they represent the resistance to exactly the "loser" mentality you describe. No one is strong forever and the only constant is change so todays oppressor can be tommorows oppressed.

Well said, the media honors soldiers equipped with all the modern technology and weapons who die in the hands of a primitive "homemade" bomb. The losers are the ones who can't seem to finish off the oppressed even though they have the upper hand. I'm all for underdogs.

even the yanks accepted their status as losers in Vietnam.
what about us?
for 600 years we kissed ottoman ass.
after that for 60 years soviet ass.
and now, it's even worse...

Arafat is a hero?
his wife collected millions when he died.

Arafat is no hero, he was part of the problem and so is the Palestinian Authority. Arafat had a western wife no?

The Yanks (militarily) never lose, they create conflicts that they know can't be won. If they wanted to take over all of Afghanistan they would send a million troops there, but that's not good business. The goal of the American military complex is to make money off of military hardware, employ the otherwise hopeless members of society and take over a country just long enough to build relations and prop up the corrupt (insert nationals of any said nation here) so they can profit through business in the future.

[Haykakan]

Re: elegy

If they wanted to take over all of Afghanistan they would send a millions troops there, but that's not good business. The goal of the American military complex is to make money off of military hardware, employ the otherwise hopeless members of society and take over a country just long enough to build relations and prop up the corrupt (insert nationals of any said nation here) so they can profit through business in the future.

Well that and in this case they are surrounding Iran with the goal of turning it into another afganistan/iraq situation so the only power in the middle east will be israel. This is not just about pulling for the underdog, its about fighting global domination and tyrany.