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  • Re: elegy

    the palestinians would live better lives in a progressive israeli democracy
    than under their own medieval-fascist leadership.
    likewise, armenians live better lives in turkey today
    than in their own homeland.
    thousand of armenians (35,000, as a matter of fact)
    have emigrated emigrated to turkey but
    as far as i know,
    not a single armenian in istanbul has chosen to be repatriated.

    shortly before the Genocide, Siamanto (one of our greatest poets) couldn't stand life in America and freely chose to return to Istanbul where he was butchered.
    Today most of our writers in the Homeland have chosen exile and some of them are not even allowed to return.

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    • Re: elegy

      Originally posted by arabaliozian View Post
      ... armenians live better lives in turkey today
      than in their own homeland.
      thousand of armenians (35,000, as a matter of fact)
      have emigrated emigrated to turkey but
      as far as i know,
      not a single armenian in istanbul has chosen to be repatriated.


      That is an appaling statement. So what?
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: elegy

        Originally posted by arabaliozian View Post
        the palestinians would live better lives in a progressive israeli democracy
        than under their own medieval-fascist leadership.
        likewise, armenians live better lives in turkey today
        than in their own homeland.
        thousand of armenians (35,000, as a matter of fact)
        have emigrated emigrated to turkey but
        as far as i know,
        not a single armenian in istanbul has chosen to be repatriated.

        shortly before the Genocide, Siamanto (one of our greatest poets) couldn't stand life in America and freely chose to return to Istanbul where he was butchered.
        Today most of our writers in the Homeland have chosen exile and some of them are not even allowed to return.
        Slaves were never homeless nor starved to death. Can you say they lived better lives as slaves than in the freedom of Capitalism?

        If your oppressor has chosen to have you ruled by a dictator of their choosing, you have no choice but to fight back or surrender. Cowards surrender and cease to exist. Palestinians would rather die honorably than have their future left in the hands of their enemies.

        Why didn't Armenians just give up their identity willingly, 1.5 million would have never perished... rather, all of us wouldn't be here on this message board because we'd all think we were Turks. Why fight the inevitable? Why doesn't the entire world just become American or Turkish or British? Would that bring world peace?
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • Re: elegy

          Tuesday, October 6, 2009
          *****************************************
          LIFE IS SHORT
          ***********************************************
          Life is short,
          art long, but even longer
          is the list of things
          that must be said and done.
          *
          You say, “Me wrong? Never!”
          and I say “How I wish I were wrong.”
          *
          I have yet to meet a smart Armenian
          who was not self-assessed
          and a self-assessed Armenian
          who was not a damn fool.
          *
          How to succeed as a writer?
          I don't know.
          But I can tell you how to fail:
          Be an Armenian writer.
          Michael Arlen succeeded
          because he pretended to be an upper-crust Englishman.
          Saroyan succeeded because he wrote about characters
          that were as imaginary as Winnie the Pooh.
          Compare the characters in PAPA, YOU'RE CRAZY
          and MAMA, I LOVE YOU with their real counterparts –
          himself and his two children
          whom he disowned like an enraged grizzly bear.
          #

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          • Re: elegy

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            Slaves were never homeless nor starved to death. Can you say they lived better lives as slaves than in the freedom of Capitalism?

            If your oppressor has chosen to have you ruled by a dictator of their choosing, you have no choice but to fight back or surrender. Cowards surrender and cease to exist. Palestinians would rather die honorably than have their future left in the hands of their enemies.

            Why didn't Armenians just give up their identity willingly, 1.5 million would have never perished... rather, all of us wouldn't be here on this message board because we'd all think we were Turks. Why fight the inevitable? Why doesn't the entire world just become American or Turkish or British? Would that bring world peace?
            if the palestinians had chosen to coexist under an israeli democracy, they would now be a majority. you may now draw your own conclusions.

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            • Re: elegy

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              That is an appaling statement. So what?
              appaling? so is reality...sometimes.

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              • Re: elegy

                Originally posted by arabaliozian View Post
                if the palestinians had chosen to coexist under an israeli democracy, they would now be a majority. you may now draw your own conclusions.
                Ara there is no way the xxxs were going to allow palastinians to become the majority while giving them equal rights. It is just crazy to think that. Zionism is isreal's motto and is inherently racist thus a democratic israeli state with a palastinian majority would not be allowed.
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • Re: elegy

                  Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                  Ara there is no way the xxxs were going to allow palastinians to become the majority while giving them equal rights. It is just crazy to think that. Zionism is isreal's motto and is inherently racist thus a democratic israeli state with a palastinian majority would not be allowed.
                  israelis are racists
                  because their enemies are fanatics bent on their extermination.
                  i assume you would feel better if they suffered another holocaust.
                  now then, thell me, who is the racist?

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                  • Re: elegy

                    Jur ek dzedzum joghovurt. Duk dzez spanek el Aran Hrianerin pashtpanelu a. Actually him being in love with J'ews, goes pretty well with his ideaology and thoughts.

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                    • Re: elegy

                      Originally posted by arabaliozian View Post
                      israelis are racists
                      because their enemies are fanatics bent on their extermination.
                      i assume you would feel better if they suffered another holocaust.
                      now then, thell me, who is the racist?
                      This just in "palastinians had nothing to do with the holocaust". And no i do not want xxxs dead but i do want them to stop killing others. The racist here is clearly you becaus in your eyes xxxs are forever victims thus whatever they do is justified.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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