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  • What about Burma?

    It seems that we only hear about the "terrible regimes" that are trying to socialize their countries resources. However, we in the west hardly ever hear about the real atrocities around the world unless there are western interests involved. So what about Burma?



    Burma's oil-rich generals can afford to ignore Obama on Suu Kyi

    President Barack Obama is trumpeting the stern criticism he gave the military generals who hold dominion over Burma, the resource-rich South Asian nation now known as Myanmar, at a meeting of Asian leaders on Sunday.

    The Burmese junta is one of the most loathed regimes in the world -- a posse of paranoid, megalomaniacal cadres who kill, torture and repress their people with impunity. A throwback to the 20th century's failed Marxist revolutionary movements, the junta relies on Burma's vast resource wealth to maintain its grip on power.

    And it is precisely that wealth -- which the generals capitalize on through bustling trade with China and India -- that allows them to ignore Obama's entreaties for reform.


    Last year, China's trade with Myanmar increased 26% to $2.6 billion, according to Bloomberg. China National Petroleum, the quasi-communist nation's largest company, has started building a 480-mile pipeline from Burma to southwest China, while CNOOC, China's largest offshore oil producer, is exploring for oil in Burma.

    Burma's annual oil-derived revenue of some $3 billion may seem small in the international stage, but it's enough to fund the junta's alarming military buildup, and gargantuan mansions and compounds for the military's top leaders. The regime clear-cut and leveled vast swaths of lush landscape to build its $2 billion, fascist-style jungle redoubt, Naypidaw, in the middle of the country -- out of a lunatic fear of an American naval invasion.

    Meanwhile, the CIA estimates that Burma's per-capita GDP -- or average annual income -- is $1,200, or less than $4 dollars per day. The junta has ruled the country since 1962.

    Obama's trip is designed to signal that the United States intends to maintain its influence in Asia, even as China's clout increases along with its nearly double-digit GDP growth. The United States conducts essentially no trade ($10.8 million) with Burma and thus is seen as having limited influence on the generals. Under George W. Bush, the U.S. had no relationship with the junta, other than vague denunciations from time to time.

    The U.S. participates in harsh sanctions against the junta, but many analysts question their usefulness at a time when the generals are increasing their trade with China, India and other countries.

    Another Call for Aung San Suu Kyi's Release

    The junta has come under international criticism for its imprisonment of Aung San Suu Kyi (pictured above), the Burmese national leader whose victory in elections 20 years ago the junta promptly annulled. For most of the time since then, Suu Kyi has been under house arrest at an isolated lakeside villa in Rangoon, the former capitol.

    The generals have also been criticized for their brutal crackdown on monks, students and other pro-democracy activists two years ago -- a shocking episode during which they cut off the nation's communication infrastructure from the outside world.

    In a meeting with Senior General Than Shwe, Obama called for Suu Kyi to be released.

    "There are clear steps that must be taken: the unconditional release of all political prisoners, including Aung San Suu Kyi; an end to conflicts with minority groups; and a genuine dialogue between the government, the democratic opposition and minority groups," said Obama, who also called for the regime to provide basic services for its citizenry -- something that is lacking in many parts of the country.

    "We're Not Going to Let the Burmese Tail Wag the ASEAN Dog"

    Jeffrey Bader, director of East Asian affairs on the National Security Council, insisted that Obama's decision to meet with leaders of the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations was designed not to punish them for their continued relations with the Burmese junta.

    "The statement we're trying to make here is that we're not going to let the Burmese tail wag the ASEAN dog," said Jeffrey Bader, the National Security Council's senior director for East Asian affairs. "We're going to meet with all 10, and we're not going to punish the other nine simply because Burma is in the room, but this is not a bilateral."

    ASEAN ministers released a statement that made no mention of Suu Kyi, instead "a cryptic reference to a previous ASEAN foreign ministers communique that called for her release," according to Dow Jones, although the document did call for the 2010 election in Burma to be "free, fair, inclusive and transparent."

    Human-rights groups blasted the ministers' failure to mention Suu Kyi, calling it "another blow" to the country's repressed democracy movement. "We keep saying again and again that the U.S. should not send a mixed signal to the regime," said Soe Aung, a spokesman for the Forum for Democracy in Burma, a Thailand-based organization.

    In September, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. would directly talk to the junta in order to press for democratic reforms. One month earlier, Sen. Jim Webb, (D-Va.), a retired marine officer, became the first elected U.S. official to have face-to-face talks with Than Shwe, the junta's reclusive boss.

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/bu...-kyi/19240138/
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    Re: What about Burma?

    As Asia slowly transforms to become the next big thing, I'd imagine countries like Burma will be hot spots for politics.



    Burmese troops are enlisted to rescue stranded tycoon


    The weight of Burma's military has been thrown behind efforts to locate and rescue one of the country's wealthiest businessmen – and a close ally of its military leader – after he became stranded on a remote mountain.

    In events that underline both the wealth and influence of Tay Za, a military helicopter has been dispatched to try to rescue the businessman, whose own helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing on Fukanrazi mountain in a remote area of Burma's northern Kachin state on Monday. His company has separately chartered a private helicopter from neighbouring Thailand to fly to the mountain and locate the tycoon and his party.

    Concerns about the safety of the 43-year-old and his group have increased after they were forced to spend two nights at an elevation of 12,000ft, where overnight temperatures have fallen to -15C. The MI-17 military helicopter dispatched to help in the rescue effort was apparently not able to fly high enough to reach the stranded group and so new measures were undertaken.

    Last night, it was reported that rescuers, being co-ordinated from a Burmese Air Force site in Putao, 50 miles north of Kachin state's capital, Myitkyina, had made contact with the businessman and his party. It was unclear when precisely they might be rescued but reports added that once Tay Za was found, he would then be flown overseas for a medical check-up, most likely in Thailand or Singapore. "A military helicopter has located them and has dropped them food," a government official told the Deutsche Presse-Agentur. "We expect to get them out soon."

    Tay Za, who owns a string of luxury hotels, an airline and a mobile phone company as part of an extensive portfolio of business interests, is sometimes said to be the third-richest man in Burma and is known to be a close friend of senior general Than Shwe. In the aftermath of the "saffron revolution" of 2007, when the military authorities brutally repressed a democracy movement led by monks and ordinary people, the US imposed a visa ban on the businessman, who also heads the Htoo Trading Company.

    "Tay Za is Burma's best-known crony with very close ties to Than Shwe and the military regime," said Benedict Rogers, of Christian Solidarity Worldwide and author of Than Shwe: Unmasking Burma's Tyrant. "The mere fact that he was travelling by helicopter, that his company can hire another helicopter from Thailand, and that he can even contemplate travelling to another country for medical treatment, indicates his wealth and influence. Ordinary Burmese in a similar situation would be left completely unaided."

    Reports suggest that the businessman, who spends much of his time in Singapore, had been in Kachin state with six other people pursuing opportunities to develop tourism. Their helicopter was forced to land on Fukanrazi, which is also known as Ice mountain, because of bad weather and was then unable to take off again. The privately chartered helicopter, rented in the Thai city of Chiang Mai, first flew to Mandalay for refuelling before continuing on to join the rescue efforts, which also involves troops from the army's Northern Regional Military Command.

    Tay Za is the owner of a handful of private banks in Burma. His son Pye Phyo Tay Za was last year involved in a legal battle with the EU over financial matters. Travel sanctions were imposed against him.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-2223943.html
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #3
      Re: What about Burma?

      Who is Suu Kyi?



      Aung San Suu Kyi, Burma’s pro-democracy leader and Nobel Peace laureate, has come to symbolise the struggle of Burma’s people to be free.

      She has spent more than 15 years in detention, most of it under house arrest. She was released from her current third period of detention on Saturday 13th November 2010.

      However, there are still more than 2,100 political prisoners in Burma and none of the repressive laws allowing the dictatorship to detain people without trial and restrict other freedoms have been repealed following the sham election on 7 November or under the new constitution.

      Early Life
      Aung San Suu Kyi was born on June 19th, 1945, daughter of Burma’s independence hero, Aung San, who was assassinated when she was only two years old.

      Aung San Suu Kyi was educated in Burma, India, and the United Kingdom. While studying at Oxford University, she met Michael Aris, a Tibet scholar who she married in 1972. They had two sons, Alexander and Kim.

      Return to Burma
      Aung San Suu Kyi returned to Burma in 1988 to nurse her dying mother, and soon became engaged in the country’s nationwide democracy uprising. The military regime responded to the uprising with brute force, killing up to 5,000 demonstrators on 8th August 1988.

      Following a military coup on 18th September 1988, on 24th September 1988 a new pro-democracy party, the National League for Democracy, was formed. Aung San Suu Kyi was appointed General Secretary. Aung San Suu Kyi gave numerous speeches calling for freedom and democracy, and political activities continued across the country.

      1990 Elections
      Facing increasing domestic and international pressure, the dictatorship was forced to call a general election, held in 1990.

      As Aung San Suu Kyi began to campaign for the NLD, she and many others were detained by the regime. Aung San Suu Kyi was banned from personally standing in the election. Despite conditions around the elections being far from free and fair with Aung San Suu Kyi and other democracy activists being detained, biased media, and intimidation of politicians, the voting on the day was relatively free and fair. The NLD won a staggering 82% of the seats in Parliament. The dictatorship never recognised the results of the election, and refused to hand over power.

      Released For Five Years
      Aung San Suu Kyi was held under house arrest until July 1995. When released she faced restrictions on travel.

      On March 27 1999, Aung San Suu Kyi’s husband, Michael Aris, died of cancer in London. He had petitioned the Burmese authorities to allow him to visit Aung San Suu Kyi one last time, but they had rejected his request. He had not seen her since a Christmas visit in 1995. The government always urged Aung San Suu Kyi to join her family abroad, but she knew that she would not be allowed to return to Burma.

      Detained Again
      In 2000 Aung San Suu Kyi was again placed under house arrest after repeated attempts to leave the capital, Rangoon, to hold political meetings in other parts of the country.

      Released Again

      In 2002, Aung San Suu Kyi was released from house arrest and with freedom to travel around the country. The release was part of a deal negotiated by UN Envoy on Burma, Razali Ismail. He had facilitated secret meetings between Aung San Suu Kyi and the military. Confidence building steps had been agreed, including that the dictatorship would stop the vehement attacks on Aung San Suu Kyi in the media, and the NLD would stop publicly calling for sanctions, although its policy of still supporting targeted economic sanctions remained. However, when it came to move from confidence building meetings, and instead start dealing with matters of substance, the dictatorship refused to engage in any meaningful dialogue. As a low-level envoy without significant political backing from the UN itself or the international community, Razali was unable to persuade the Generals to move the dialogue forward.

      After waiting patiently, Aung San Suu Kyi began to travel the country, holding meetings at which tens of thousands of people turned out to see her, dashing the hopes of the Generals that during her long period of detention the people would have forgotten her, and her support would have waned.

      The dictatorship began using members of the Union Solidarity and Development Association to harass and attack NLD meetings. This political militia was set up and organised by the military, with Than Shwe, dictator of Burma, as its President. It later transformed as the Union Solidarity and Development Party, the political party front for the military in the elections held on 7th November 2010.

      On May 30th 2003 members of the USDA attacked a convoy of vehicles Aung San Suu Kyi was travelling in. It was an attempt by the dictatorship to assassinate Aung San Suu Kyi, using a civilian front so as not to take the blame. Aung San Suu Kyi’s driver managed to drive her to safety, but more than 70 of Aung San Suu Kyi’s supporters were beaten to death. The attack became known at the Depayin Massacre. The dictatorship claimed it was a riot between two political groups, incited by the NLD. The United Nations General Assembly called for the incident to be investigated, but it never was.

      Detained Again
      Following the attack, Aung San Suu Kyi was held in detention, and then placed back under house arrest. She has been detained ever since.

      During her current period of detention, conditions have been much stricter than in the past. Her phone line has been cut, her post is stopped and National League for Democracy volunteers providing security at her compound were removed in December 2004.

      Diplomats are generally not allowed to meet her, although occasionally UN envoys and US government officials have been allowed to meet her. However, even UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon was not allowed to meet her when he visited the country in 2009.

      In May 2009, just days before her period of house arrest was due to expire, Aung San Suu Kyi was arrested and charged with breaking the terms of her house arrest, which forbids visitors, after John Yettaw, a United States citizen, swam across Inya lake and refused to leave her house. In August 2009 she was convicted, and sentenced to three years imprisonment. In an apparent attempt to placate international outrage about the trial, the sentence was reduced to 18 months under house arrest. By coincidence, this meant her release date turned out to be just 6 days after elections held in Burma, thereby ensuring that once again she was in detention during elections.

      "International Support"
      Aung San Suu Kyi has won numerous international awards, including the Nobel Peace Prize, the Sakharov Prize from the European Parliament and the United States Presidential Medal of Freedom. She has called on people around the world to join the struggle for freedom in Burma, saying “Please use your liberty to promote ours.”

      http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/inde...ng-san-suu-kyi
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #4
        Re: What about Burma?

        Yes, let us over throw the junta so Armenians can return to Rangoon! :P
        For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
        to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



        http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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        • #5
          Re: What about Burma?

          Originally posted by Armanen View Post
          Yes, let us over throw the junta so Armenians can return to Rangoon! :P


          The Armenian Church of St. John the Baptist in Rangoon


          Unfortunately the records for this Church were lost during World War II. However the Armenian cemeteries in Mandalay, Syriam and Rangoon indicate that Armenians first came to India from Iran around 1608, some of them went on to Burma and settled there, playing a prominent part in the promotion of trade, especially in the three towns mentioned above.

          In the 18th century they constructed the Church of St. Gregory the Illuminator in Mandalay, on a plot of land graciously presented to them by His Majesty the King of Burma. In this Church, divine services were held regularly until the 1920's, when the community in Mandalay gradually moved down to Rangoon.

          The Church of St. John the Baptist in Rangoon was erected by the community there in the year 1862 on land they had acquired in October 1858. This Church was formally consecrated on the 17th July 1863 by Revd. Father Aviet Chaytor, the then resident priest. The church was internally remodelled with a new roof during 1908-1909.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #6
            Re: What about Burma?

            Burma's new government sworn in



            Burma's junta was officially disbanded Wednesday after handing over power to a new so-called civilian government, the latest phase of a transition to democracy that has been widely criticized as a sham.

            The closed-door inauguration of the new government was announced only after it took place, in keeping with the secretive style of Burma's military regimes of the past 50 years. Despite the handover, key figures in the former junta, including leader Senior Gen. Than Shwe, are expected to retain substantial hold over power.

            State television and radio reported that the new government headed by President Thein Sein was sworn in by parliament in the remote capital of Naypyitaw. Thein Sein was the junta's prime minister and a top member of the previous military government.

            Burma, which has been ruled by the military since 1962 and is also known as Myanmar, held its first elections in 20 years in November, though there has been little indication since of real democratic changes.

            First power change since 1988

            The news reports said the new government's arrival marked the end of the junta's longtime ruling party, the State Peace and Development Council, or SPDC, which has been in power since 1988.

            "The SPDC is officially dissolved," state media reported, saying that the dissolution was ordered by Than Shwe, who wielded absolute power since 1992.

            Almost immediately after the announcement, government offices underwent a makeover.

            Signs outside the junta's Peace and Development Council offices nationwide came down and were replaced with new ones saying: "General Administration Office." The new and old signs were similar shades of dark green, the same colour used by Thein Sein's ruling party, which is seen as a proxy for the junta.

            State media did not mention what becomes of Than Shwe. The dissolution of his party would render him effectively retired, but he is expected to remain a dominant force.

            The 78-year-old now no longer holds his two official posts — as SPDC chairman and armed forces commander.

            Gen. Min Aung Hlaing, a senior defence official, was named the new commander of Burma's armed forces, said lawmaker Phone Myint Aung, who attended the inauguration.

            Cabinet dominated by former military officers

            The new government's 30-member cabinet is dominated by former military officers who retired in order to run in last November's elections. About a dozen of the ministers were members of the junta's cabinet. Only four of the appointees are strictly civilian.

            Critics say last year's elections were orchestrated by the junta to perpetuate military rule. With one quarter of the seats in parliament filled by military appointees, and a large majority of the remaining seats won by a military-backed party, the army retains power.

            The party of Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, which won the last elections in 1990 but was blocked from taking power by the military, boycotted November's vote, calling it unfair. Much of the international community also dismissed the elections as rigged in favour of the junta.

            Suu Kyi who still heads the opposition group, the National League for Democracy, said she hoped relations with the new government would be better.

            "We always want good relations with the government. I hope that the relationship improves," Suu Kyi said over the weekend. "We will work for good relations."

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...overnment.html
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #7
              Re: What about Burma?

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              Who is Suu Kyi?
              Aung San Suu Kyi, Burma’s pro-democracy leader and Nobel Peace laureate, has come to symbolise the struggle of Burma’s people to be free.
              Providing "Burma's people" (we will never hear her say "peoples of Burma") don't want to be anything other than Burmese. The supposedly "saintly" Aung San Suu Kyi (like her father) is just as oppressive and ruthless against any ethnic groups and other minorities wanting their rights as the generals she opposes.
              Last edited by bell-the-cat; 03-30-2011, 06:04 PM. Reason: edited to remove photo - Obama's face makes me feel like vomiting
              Plenipotentiary meow!

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              • #8
                Re: What about Burma?

                Wouldnt it be nice to have western style democracy in Burma? Like if the Burmese people had democracy they would then be defrauded out of their homes by the banks and all their jobs would be shipped elsewhere and their oil would be owned by the USA which would also place some cool weapons on burmese soil in a new military base....everyone must have democracy because uncle sam said so!
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • #9
                  Re: What about Burma?

                  Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                  Wouldnt it be nice to have western style democracy in Burma? Like if the Burmese people had democracy they would then be defrauded out of their homes by the banks and all their jobs would be shipped elsewhere and their oil would be owned by the USA which would also place some cool weapons on burmese soil in a new military base....everyone must have democracy because uncle sam said so!
                  Democracy puts control of natural resources into the hands of wealthy foreigners and allows for the native population to vote for a government who they believe will sell them out the least. Also, "democracy" only works if there are other forms of government that are seen as being more repressive such as autocratic theocracies, kingdoms and dictatorships. That is not to say that those other forms of government are less effective, it all depends who holds the power and technology at the time. If America didn't have the military technology or the power/money to buy the latest medical/civil technology, nobody would care about its electoral system.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #10
                    Re: What about Burma?

                    It'd be better if democracy wasn't just the "American style" -- there theoretically can be a democracy if it took into account the people and not the aristocrats..
                    hence "theoretically" b/c money talks and gets things done

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