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    This is terrible:



    10/06/04 "The Independent" -- The Pentagon said yesterday it was investigating xxxxpit video footage that shows American pilots attacking and
    killing a group of apparently unarmed Iraqi civilians.

    The 30-second clip shows the pilot targeting the group of people in a street in the city of Fallujah and asking his mission controllers whether he should "take them out". He is told to do so and, shortly afterwards, the footage shows a huge explosion where the people were. A second voice can be heard on the clip saying: "Oh, dude."

    The existence of the video, taken last April inside the xxxxpit of a US F-16 fighter has been known for some time, though last night's broadcast by Channel 4 News is believed to be the first time a mainstream broadcaster has shown the footage.

    At no point during the exchange between the pilot and controllers does anyone ask whether the Iraqis are armed or posing a threat. Critics say it proves war crimes are being committed.

    Copyright: Text: ©2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd. All rights reserved
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

  • #2
    That video doesn't mean a whole lot. Targets are discussed at great length well before a pilot ever takes off. We have no idea who these people were or even if the video is real. You might want to reserve judgement until after the investigation is complete.

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    • #3
      yeah who cares if you just saw 20 people get killed. Cut the Americans some slack here.

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      • #4
        Yeah, because seeing people killed is such an uncommon occurance in the middle of a war.

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        • #5
          It's not the only video where an apach gunner is targetting people. In a previouse one that I saw, the military clearly knew the people targeted where not carying any weapon..theire sole bad thing is that they were talking at night....

          Of course we don't know who these people are...insurgeant? Peacefull ones? No one knows.

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          • #6
            LOL that was great. The US military at its finest. I wish some of the people on this forum would be taken out the same way. Clear up some of the clutter around here.

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            • #7
              the point is you just saw people die. How often do you see people die loseyourname?

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              • #8
                i saw a couple of videos like that.
                their mostly bulshiat hoaxes.

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                • #9
                  BTW, somethimes the insurgents hide their weapons. but i think the video is not what you think. i heard about another one with brits raping a girl. but then the "brits" were too dark colored (if u know what i mean ). and the girl had like mascara on her. yeah right.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Thai-Samurai
                    the point is you just saw people die. How often do you see people die loseyourname?
                    The point is we have no idea what we saw. Tapes like this have been faked before, and this is being investigated. I don't see any reason to get outraged when people are killed in the middle of a war. If they were innocent, the pilots knew they were innocent but targeted them anyway, then I'll be outraged. I'm not going to be so quick to assume that is actually what happened, like so many people who are more than willing to uncritically accept any negative accusation toward the US military. If this is genuine, then it is being investigated as the site says it is. I'll withhold judgement until that investigation is complete.

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