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    There was a thread on freedom that I wanted to reply to, and as I pressed reply, it mysteriously disappeared.. Still interesting discussion, so here goes my reply:

    Freedom does not exist in any society. You can only be free alone outside of society and having grown up not knowing any type of society. As soon as you enter the world of your parents, you are trapped by the constraints set up for you by them which they got from their parents and society in general.
    Since it is impossible for human beings to survive the first years of their lives alone, true freedom is impossible to acquire ever. Your mind has been "contaminated" to the point that you can't even think outside of some sort of society.

    Drug use, criminal conduct etc. are all societal constraints imposed on us by society. The label alone is something society has created for us.
    So is the belief that we are free in this society. So many people have fallen for the biggest lie in the history of mankind: that we are free even as our freedom is taken away from us the day that we are born.

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    Freedom: found

    Upon rereading what I wrote, I found it didn't make as much sense as I wanted it to. However, I will repost what I wrote before and try to fix it later:

    What is your definition of freedom? Does it cover cases such as drug use, where the use of the drug eventually entraps the addict? Is increasing an individual's freedom that decreases another's freedom acting with respect to freedom? If so, then how is this different from murder, where an individuals freedom to kill someone is valued less than the another's freedom, and slavery, where the freedom to enslave is valued less than the freedom to be free? Can the value of each scenario be determined with respect to freedom? In such an example, an individual's freedom to live would be valued greater than another's freedom to kill. Not because murdering someone is ethically wrong, but because murder decreases the freedom belonging to a human being. (Ethically, we would, then, only need one provision: that freedom is good. )
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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